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Merge to 2023 Sudan clashes, 15 April 2023, from 2023 Sudanese Armed Forces-Rapid Support Forces confrontation to 2023 Sudanese coup d'état attempt, see discussion.
Not moved, 18 April 2023, from 2023 Sudan clashes to Third Sudanese Civil War, see discussion.
Moved, 19 April 2023, from 2023 Sudan clashes to 2023 Sudan conflict, see discussion.
Not moved, 21 April 2023, from 2023 Sudan conflict to 2023 Sudanese conflict, see discussion.
Not moved, 25 April 2023, from 2023 Sudan conflict to 2023 Sudan crisis, see discussion.
Not moved, 25 April 2023, from 2023 Sudan conflict to Third Sudanese Civil War, see discussion.
Not moved, 4 May 2023, from 2023 Sudan conflict to Third Sudanese Civil War, see discussion.
Procedural close, 5 May 2023, from 2023 Sudan conflict to 2023 Sudanese conflict, see discussion.
Moved to War in Sudan (2023), 3 September 2023, from 2023 Sudan conflict to 2023 Sudan war, see discussion.
Moved, 27 December 2023, from War in Sudan (2023) to War in Sudan (2023–present), see discussion.
Moved, 18 May 2024, from War in Sudan (2023–present) to Sudanese civil war (2023–present), see discussion.
Not moved, 26 May 2024, to Third Sudanese Civil War, see discussion.

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Foreign involvement Split proposed

It has been suggested that this section be split out into another article titled Foreign involvement in the Sudanese civil war (2023–present) by @Salmoonlight FuzzyMagma (talk) 09:11, 29 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Agreed, there is no point of adding every single detail if there already more articles about the Sudanese civil war (2023-present). A page of foreign involvement in the Sudanese civil war (2023-present) should be made. SDUpdates32349 (talk) 15:45, 30 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

New war name

This should be called the 3rd Sudanese civil war because this is the 3rd civil war in Sudan 2.28.107.151 (talk) 11:03, 1 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

We don't do WP:OR here. Borgenland (talk) 11:46, 1 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

We would need a title change to just be "Third sudanese civil war", I know we kept the Sudanese civil war (2023-present) as disambiguation however this is still a civil war and no point of just keeping "2023-present", for example, the First Congo War is not the same civil war parties as the second Congo war. The first one is between Zaire and AFDL to fight for power in the country, the second one is a conflict of rebellious militias across the country. Addition to this, the First Liberian Civil War is about anti-Doe government forces taking over the country, the second war was about anti-taylor government forces. The point here is that a (2023-present) is not needed and should maybe be changed to the Third Sudanese civil war. SDUpdates32349 (talk) 14:17, 1 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

The title should at least be changed to capitalise "civil" and "war". Willmorrish (talk) 10:12, 13 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

do you have a source for this idea? FuzzyMagma (talk) 21:22, 13 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

No it shouldn't; Wikipedia style is to capitalise only the first word of an article title, unless there are specific reasons for capitalising other words, which usually means unless other words in the title are proper nouns. JBW (talk) 20:46, 14 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Semi-protected edit request on 11 January 2025

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Rsf No longer control most of geziera state, so change areas mostly controlled by Rsf to not include geziera state . The Darkness 1 (talk) 23:15, 11 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. M.Bitton (talk) 02:24, 12 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

the image is in wiki commons, if you know how change svg images, please have at it or wait for an experience editor to do it. Maybe @GGOTCC, @Miki1234568, or @Borysk5 FuzzyMagma (talk) 21:14, 13 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@FuzzyMagma I have calculus tests this week, but updating the map is something I can certainly do over the weekend (I've been meaning to do it for a while). You can also use free SVG editors (some online) to draw the borders how you wish. On that note, do we have any existing maps of Al-Gerizera State to see exactly who controls what parts? GGOTCC (talk) 01:15, 14 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Take your time and good luck with your exams.

as for the map, frankly only BBC produce similar map but you can look to Timeline of the Sudanese civil war (2025) for information about places that was recently captured by SAF FuzzyMagma (talk) 05:02, 14 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@FuzzyMagma can you give me a image of this --Miki1234568 (talk) 21:17, 13 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I see you have tried yesterday. You can edit svg image (the original file) using multiple software, I use Inkscape. So just download the original from the commons and it will have the svg code FuzzyMagma (talk) 21:21, 13 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I already make a new version, today will be active. Miki1234568 (talk) 07:32, 14 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Done: --Miki1234568 (talk) 15:43, 14 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Also it would be good if you put Diling and Kaduqli as contested between SAF and SPLM-N. Also SPLM-N had not even approached Abu Jubeiha, much less been holding it under their control. 93.139.237.167 (talk) 15:23, 26 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Suggestion: change the beginning of the first paragraph to improve readability and avoid explanatory sentences between commas. This can help improve readability. Eg:

"A civil war between two major rival factions of the military government of Sudan began during Ramadan on 15 April 2023.[21].The two opponent factions consist of the Sudanese Armed Forces (SAF) under Abdel Fattah al-Burhan, and the paramilitary Rapid Support Forces (RSF) and its allies (collectively the Janjaweed coalition) under the Janjaweed leader Hemedti." ClaraChagas (talk) 17:42, 21 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]