Talk:Liverpool F.C.

They're first in the premier league

Liverpool are first not third Errorrr5 (talk) 17:55, 24 November 2024 (UTC)

that refers to where they finished last season not the current season. We don't update it during the current season NapHit (talk) 11:35, 28 December 2024 (UTC)

The History Chart

Lots of teams have a chart showing the team history over the years. Is there a reason why there isn't one for Liverpool? Midnorton (talk) 03:30, 28 December 2024 (UTC)

Yeh, because it's not really needed and would have to be updated every year. WP:OTHERSTUFFEXISTS isn't justfification for just adding one in here. NapHit (talk) 11:34, 28 December 2024 (UTC)

Your reply doesn't really answer my question. The chart shows were the team finished at the end of the season in a handy summary. To say it's not really needed implies the information is already there, which it isn't, or that each of us carries the end of season league position in our heads for all 130 or so years. As to being updated each year, well they all need updating at the end of every season. I think the Wikipedia:OTHERSTUFFEXISTS is really talking about whole new pages. I am simply asking about a chart added to the existing page. My question really was trying to find out if it has been actively decided that nobody wants the chart for LFC for some reason or whether it doesn't exist solely because the guy who has done most of the others actively dislikes Liverpool, which I suspect to be the case. Midnorton (talk) 17:40, 30 December 2024 (UTC)

I encourage you to not assume that every minor decision on these articles is due to bias. That's silly and insults the hard work of an editor who, frankly, has contributed much more to Wikipedia than you have. As you were previously told, the guy who does these has indeed made a version for LFC: File:Liverpool FC League Performance.svg. I don't have strong opinions about the graph, but I do think that for a club like Liverpool which has sat in the top half of the first division for most of its history, the graph doesn't really show much. 1963-present is effectively a straight line that shows no detail to mobile readers (the majority of our readership) unless the click the photo and zoom in. Compare to, say, File:AstonVillaFC League Performance.svg, which conveys much more information about the years of success or failure at the club. Alyo (chat·edits) 23:44, 30 December 2024 (UTC)

Dashes (for parenthetical and single, offset use)

Great article – I really appreciate the clarity and consistency. One small thing, though: it uses unspaced em dashes for parenthetical dashes and spaced en dashes for the single, offset variety, something I think MOS:DASH isn't keen on (from "In running text": "In all such cases, either unspaced em dashes or spaced en dashes can be used, with consistency maintained throughout a given article"). As far as I can count (with the aid of a search feature), there are four em dashes (two in the opening section and two in "History" – all used parenthetically), and there are two spaced en dashes later on (one in quoted text in "Colours and badge" and one in "Rivalries"). (There are also several spaced en dashes in the references, though I'm more concerned with the main text.) It seems to me like only one type should be used in all these cases in the main text. I'm new here, though, and am just keen to learn the conventions and would appreciate hearing back from experienced editors, such as those strongly involved with shaping this fine article. Frank Thistle (talk) 04:29, 28 January 2025 (UTC)

Updated Backroom and Scouting Department

Backroom staff is out of date. Dave Fallows has left the club. Should be:

Coaching missing:

• Aaron Briggs: Elite Development Coach

• Richard Hughes: Sporting Director
• David Woodfine: Assistant Sporting Director
• Will Spearman: Director of Research
• Barry Hunter: Chief Scout
• Senior Scout: Craig McKee
• Senior Scout: Mark Burchill

Sources: https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/5872713/2024/10/25/liverpool-recruitment-director-fallows/ and https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/5623689/2024/07/08/liverpool-aaron-briggs-development-coach/ and https://www.liverpool.com/liverpool-fc-news/features/inside-liverpool-recruitment-team-fallows-30233859 JOEEEY82 (talk) 19:04, 24 February 2025 (UTC)

Updated the ones who have third-party sources, thank you. Alyo (chat·edits) 03:40, 25 February 2025 (UTC)