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Move proposed

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The result of the proposal was Moved WhiteNight ^{T | @ | C} 00:50, 1 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

A proposition has been made at WP:RM to move this page to Percy Pringle. - Chadbryant 18:21, 28 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Support. McPhail 18:53, 28 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

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returning info

Decided to edit that bit about Paul comming back to manage both Kane and the Undertaker. Now it just says it is rumored that he will just come back to manage The Undertaker. User: Terminator Storm 3:20, 22 Augest 2006

Removing Poorly-Written Addition

Percy Pringle (aka Paul Bearer) opened the WWE Smackdown House Show on August 5, 2006 in Mobile, AL. He was introduced by The Miz as the former manager of The Undertaker and a true WWE Legend. Pringle came out to "Sweet Home Alabama" and got a big ovation from the crowd in attendance. He plugged his Gulf South Wrestling promotion and talked about how the industry and his home town means to him.

The above paragraph is little more than markcruft that does not adhere to WP:MOS. More experienced editors should watch for a few newbies who keep attempting to insert it. - Chadbryant 22:24, 2 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Is this True?

Paul Bearer sadly passed away on March 24,2007.On The Undertaker's birthday.He was found in his hotel room hung.It appears that he commited suicide.

There is no link to where it says this so I am assumeing it's not true. I'm removeing it. Terminator Storm 22:34, 25 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

One night return to WWE alongside the Brothers of Destruction

It's true Watch the video below. Oooooh Yeeeeessss! (Lol)

http://youtube.com/watch?v=YxHcLN7YNXY

Real name?

The top of the article says William (Alvin) Moody, but this is never repeated anywhere else in the article, and, including his website, refer to him as Percival Pringle. —Preceding unsigned comment added by AndarielHalo (talk • contribs) 01:46, 20 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Article name

The following is a closed discussion of the proposal. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.

The result of the proposal was Does anyone else think that the article should be at Paul Bearer? That is what he's best known as and has used it for many years. TJ Spyke 01:04, 23 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Agreed SAVIOR_SELF.777 02:47, 31 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Definitely, moving now. Andre666 (talk) 18:43, 15 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

It seems it cannot be moved, there is already a Paul Bearer page, be it only a redirect. Someone else sort it... Andre666 (talk) 18:45, 15 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Percy Pringle

Unresolved

no consensus was formed.

Move to William Moody (real name) or Paul Bearer (most famous name)? --Endless Dan 12:17, 21 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Support a move to William Moody. Darrenhusted (talk) 12:28, 21 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose a move to either name. The Percy Pringle moniker is well known and was used in well known promotions like Championship Wrestling from Florida, World Class Championship Wrestling (also when the promotion became the WCWA) and the United States Wrestling Association. Odin's Beard (talk) 12:34, 21 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I agree with everything you said, but he gained world wide noteriety for his tenure in the WWF as Paul Bearer. So should the page be moved to his real name? --Endless Dan 12:42, 21 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

He was known for 6 years as Percy Pringle and 15 as Paul Bearer, at the very least he should not be listed as Percy Pringle as it is the lesser known of his two stage names. Darrenhusted (talk)

Precisely.--Endless Dan 12:56, 21 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

So do you support a move to Paul Bearer or William Moody? Darrenhusted (talk) 14:02, 21 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I'm on the fence to be honest with you. He did achieve noteriety as Percy Pringle and I don't think that should be swept under the rug. On his official website, he calls himself Percy Pringle... but that could be because he cannot legally use the name Paul Bearer (it's owned by the WWF). However, without a doubt, his most famous moniker is Paul Bearer. So I'm gonna sit back and read some more comments before making a decision. --Endless Dan 14:07, 21 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I don't think that would be too much of a problem. The Earky Career section mentions when he went by the name Percy Pringle and that section comes before the section that mentions his role as Paul Bearer. Also you or someone else could also suggest putting a small mention in the introduction paragraph if deemed necessary. In short, I don't think opsoition is necessay for those reasons. --76.69.170.226 (talk) 23:02, 21 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Support a move to William Moody. per Darrenhusted Govvy (talk) 18:56, 23 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Comment Also on TV.com He is credited as William Moody. Govvy (talk) 16:53, 24 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose moving article. He refers to himself as Percy Pringle (see his website at http://www.percypringle.com. He has been using the name Percy Pringle from 1977-1990, 2002-2003, and 2005-present. He also published a book under the name Percy Pringle (I don't remember the exact title, but it was something along the lines of Inside Secrets on How You can Enter the Exciting World of Professional Wrestling). I see no need for a move. If it's not broken, don't fix it. GaryColemanFan (talk) 17:20, 24 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose per GCF. -- iMatthew _T.C. 23:44, 18 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Support move to Paul Bearer per Darrenhusted. McJeff (talk) 03:45, 20 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Support - move to Paul Bearer SAVIOR_SELF.777 23:22, 23 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Support move to Paul Bearer per Darrenhusted. Cra sh U nderride 03:44, 26 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Not done -- iMatthew _T.C. 10:55, 26 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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In TNA

Nothing is mentioned about him being in TNA for a short period wanting to join Sports Entertainment Xtreme (sEx). Mr. C.C. (talk) 03:22, 28 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Manged Cactus Jack?

I see on the list of people managed it says Cactus Jack. But he managed Mankind and not Cactus Jack. Mr. C.C. (talk) 22:14, 1 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

He also managed both Steve Austin and Vader for a short time, both of which are oddly nowhere to to be found in the 'Wrestlers Managed' section. I think they should be added, especially considering that Paul is mentioned in both wrestler's 'Managers' section on his Wiki page. Augustwinterman 22:09, 12 Match 2013 (UTC)

Paul Bearer murder storyline

Could someone make the section that talks about Undertaker doing away with Paul Bearer more clear? It's totally unclear to me and I still don't get what exactly happened in regards to that whole issue? There's stuff in parenthesis explaining it? Totally don't get it? Anyone who knows about that, please make the section more clearer. Cheers! Cheers_Dude (talk) 07:52, 28 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Requested move

See discussion here. 199.125.109.126 (talk) 17:48, 29 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Return to NWA?

According to NWA, Percy Pringle III will return to NWA. There is no mention in the article of this though. Supertanno (talk) 12:06, 4 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Vince McMahon did not know about Moody's degree

In a recent podcasted interview reflecting on his career and time with the Undertaker, Mr. Moody described a meeting with Vince McMahon where they were surprised to learn that he did have a background in being an actual Undertaker. The statement

McMahon used Pringle's real-life involvement in the funeral industry to create the character of Paul Bearer

is incorrect or at least misleading. He was however brought in the be the Paul Bearer character but knowledge Moody's background came later. http://whosslammingwho.podomatic.com/entry/eg/2010-03-24T12_33_02-07_00

edit: it appears the podcast was deleted but I found it here http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z9wyARFNnl8 The story begins around the 7:30 mark begins the story.

--8.22.136.8 (talk) 15:47, 8 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

"Father of Destruction"

On Smackdown and on WWE.com, Paul Bearer was referred to as the "Father of Destruction". Perhaps we should add that as his nickname in the "In Wrestling" section? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 125.60.241.244 (talk) 06:29, 25 September 2010 (UTC) The precise reason for sad demise of William Alvin "Bill" Moody is unclear till date, however according to TMZ, he reportedly suffered from serious health problems over the past decade - including morbid obesity and gallbladder issues. Er. V. A. Thomas (talk) 18:18, 6 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

He also had a blood clot days before he died. Kennvido (talk) 20:53, 6 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

weight

350 lbs ?? really? REALLY? 280 maybe . ok he was fat beut 350 lbs COME ON! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 109.45.151.11 (talk) 15:19, 1 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Personal Life section

I am confused by the sentence concerning his wife's death due to "complications from breast cancer and chemotherapy"... i followed the reference link provided, and it only says she died from breast cancer. It mentions that she underwent treatment, but most people that die from cancer have undergone treatment.

If she really did die from complications resulting from her chemo therapy treatment, then it needs to be referenced correctly. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.111.84.132 (talk) 20:54, 9 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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Ohh yes

Oh yes 2001:8F8:192F:1941:11EC:CC66:AE3B:8C71 (talk) 20:23, 28 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]