Category talk:Macedonia (ancient kingdom)

Categorization

Category:Ancient Macedon is a geography category, and doesn't belong in the "peoples of" or the "modern states".

--William Allen Simpson 12:27, 23 May 2006 (UTC)

Which is why its was placed under the Category:Ancient Greece, which reflects all of the historic aspects of the ancient Greek world, not the modern regional state. Category:Ancient Macedon does not only have geographical articles in it that reflect only geographical aspects. There a plenty of historical articles that reflect the historical aspects of Category:Ancient Greece as much, if not more so, then anyone/anything else. The Ancient Kingdom of Macedon was part of the Ancient Greek world at least from the time period of Alexander I of Macedon, that's a century before King Philip II of Macedon was even born and the Hellenistic age even started. Not to mention Athenian playwriters such as Euripides and Agathon and the famous painter Zeuxis all were influencial in the early Kingdom. Euripides wrote his last two tragedies at Archelaus' court. And there is evidence that Athenians in the 5th century BC viewed the Macedonian language as a form of Greek since in the comedy "Pausanias or Macedonians?" by the poet Strattis presents the Macedonian language as a form of Greek. And if you take into account the time period of King Philip II of Macedon and Alexander the Great, the time period in where most of Macedon's historic power and influence comes to play, it was even more so part of the Ancient Greek world then any time before it. ~Mallaccaos, 25 May 2006

Category:Ancient Macedon co-existed with and conquered Category:Ancient Greece (a sister language). --William Allen Simpson 08:42, 25 May 2006 (UTC)

We don't "know" exactly if it was either part of the Greek dialects, a "sister" language or something else; so it can't be categorizee as "a sister language" flat out. What we do know is that after at least the 5th century BC they were talking a form of Attic based on the inscriptions and literature they left behind. ~Mallaccaos, 25 May 2006

Your very odd comment today (I noticed under Category:Ancient Rome, you did not remove Rome, how telling.) I see no "Rome" article under category Ancient Rome. So, I don't know what's telling.... --William Allen Simpson 04:53, 26 May 2006 (UTC)

I hyperlinked it because I thought you would click on that Rome hyper-link to see where it would take you. I just found it telling that you removedCategory:Ancient Macedon from Category:Ancient Greece but did not remove Category:Ancient Italian history from Category:Ancient Rome. Personally I believe both Ancient Rome and Ancient Macedon have siginificant important basis to Italian and Greek history but you seem to believe only one has siginificants and not the other. Like I said very telling. ~Mallaccaos, 8 June 2006

However, your edit to put Ancient Macedon in Ancient Greece (again and again) has no basis in reality, any more than anybody would put Ancient Persia in Ancient Greece. Enough is enough! --William Allen Simpson 04:53, 26 May 2006 (UTC)

Ancient Macedon has a very real and significant important basis in the study of Greek History and culture as it is pointed out in this discussion[1] from the article Macedon which if you look at the top of this Category:Ancient Macedon page, you would notice it says: "Articles relating to the ancient kingdom of Macedon". The Persian comparison you're making has no basis here since that's like comparing apples and bannas. ~Mallaccaos, 8 June 2006