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Correction on Pinoy Big Brother title

Are we gonna use this as the title since there's a source for it now? https://www.abs-cbn.com/entertainment/showbiz/movies-series/2025/2/11/-pbb-celebrity-collab-to-air-on-gma-starting-march-9-0858 139.135.79.138 (talk) 07:01, 11 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Considering this is an original research, we can't use this. It has to be third-party sources besides ABS-CBN and even GMA Network. For now, hold off on changing the title until there's any recent news articles mentioning the actual title. JRGuevarra (talk) 07:23, 11 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Can third party sources count? 139.135.79.138 (talk) 06:57, 12 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

As long as there's a few or more new independent sources to prove, then a name change may be necessary. JRGuevarra (talk) 07:25, 12 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

We should wait for the official title card for the show. Hotwiki (talk) 08:07, 12 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I think that would be the best approach as well. JRGuevarra (talk) 08:16, 12 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

18th season

It is clearly stated in one of the references, that its the 18th season of the show.[1] Hotwiki (talk) 06:28, 15 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

General question

I don’t know why you remove the comma before the word end? But in basic English whenever there’s multiple objects or names there’s always comma before the end unless you only to objects or names. But maybe you have your reason unless it won’t make sense with the comma before the word and? It’s more common though for commas to appear before the word and. I get confused sometimes on why. 122.3.133.206 (talk) 15:07, 21 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

No comma is acceptable. Per Serial comma, "there is no universally accepted standard for when to use the serial comma." Plenty of Wikipedia articles don't use serial comma and its completely not an issue, especially this is the only time I've encountered someone bringing it up. Hotwiki (talk) 15:14, 21 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

That's interesting. So, is it common that some or most Wikipedia articles don't use serial comma? JRGuevarra (talk) 08:42, 22 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Per MOS:SERIAL - "Editors may use either convention so long as each article is internally consistent. Serial commas are more helpful when article text is complex, such as a list with multi-word items (especially if one contains its own "and") or a series of probably unfamiliar terms." Listing down the hosts in the opening lead isn't a complex subject. As long as this article consistently doesn't use serial comma, its fine. There's no rule to apply serial comma in every Wikipedia article. Hotwiki (talk) 13:33, 22 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]