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Need better sourcing for AP team

You did not use the correct AL ALl-Pro team, SNidow was not an AP all-Pro, he was on the Sporting News team. You may want to double check your source. You team looks good, but there are errors.Bigmaninthebox (talk) 02:52, 31 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I know you used Pro Football reference as your source, but I have had to send thme tons of corrections. You need to go back and get a good copy of the 1969 AP All-pro team. Pro Football reference.com has too many errors for it to be reliable. Also, think about it . . . if Deacon Jones and Carl Eller are "Associated Press: 1st Team All-NFL" then how are Snidow and Andrie also "Associated Press: 1st Team All-NFL". They are not. Also, Pro football reference does not have tne Associated Press second-teams listed. Pro football reference is a fgood site, I like those guys, but they do have errors in their records and you've now put those on wiki. You need to a better source.Bigmaninthebox (talk) 02:57, 31 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

The second-team AP Defensive ends are Jim Marshall and Claude Humphrey. The souces is the Charloston Dailey Mail, Decemeber 19, 1969.Bigmaninthebox (talk) 02:59, 31 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I was leery of the PFR list since they gave no AP second-team All-NFL players, but there were about twice as many first-teamers liste as one would expect. However, I wasn't able to find an on-line article or reference that could refute PFR, and I haven't had a chance to get to the library to do any other research. Can you suggest a more reliable source? — Deejayk (talk) 15:45, 31 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I found a more reliable source in the book "Total Football II". I will update this article over the next couple of days as time permits. — Deejayk (talk) 19:24, 31 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I've updated the NFL offense teams so far with the more reliable information from TF2. I was amazed at how many discrepancies there were -- I don't think a single player was correct in PFR. Thanks for the "heads up." — Deejayk (talk) 21:09, 31 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I've completed the updates and am removing the refimprove template. If you see any other discrepancies, please let me know. — Deejayk (talk) 04:34, 1 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]