Talk:2024 Greenfield tornado

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Hey @Sumanuil: The tornado is still on the Damage Assessment Toolkit (DAT). The DAT is an interactive map. It only automatically shows the latest 5-7 days. You have to change the date to when the Greenfield tornado occurred. I did just check and it is still there, so the reference doesn’t fail any verification. You can change the date at the top right of the website. The Weather Event Writer (Talk Page) 05:52, 19 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I did change the date. It gave me zilch. Maybe it's my computer? Is there a URL that would give those results automatically? - Sumanuil. _{(talk to me)} 06:05, 19 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Sadly no direct link. I often set the date to a few days before and after a tornado. Sometimes the National Weather Service offices enter the date as the survey date or make an error and enter a date before the tornado when trying to correct for a previously entered survey date as the date for the tornado. I just took this screenshot, so maybe set your dates like I have. Also, make sure you are on the correct site. The Weather Event Writer (Talk Page) 06:11, 19 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Well, that's less than ideal. Maybe there should be a note alongside that reference? - Sumanuil. _{(talk to me)} 18:40, 19 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The dat doesnt save dates. Iy you link it to a certain date, it will not do that. 2600:1014:B100:6AC1:0:56:DA88:6701 (talk) 22:19, 17 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Image

As the image in the infobox is up for deletion, I propose we add a frame from Reed Timmer's amazing drone footage of the tornado, a film that has itself been reported on by a few other sources. Alternatively, are any images from Greenfield itself and the tornado's peak intensity known to exist? From what I can tell, the drone footage was taken around 10-15 minutes before the tornado hit Greenfield, and I haven't seen any images of the tornado in the city itself. Does anyone know if the DOW team has an image of that? Departure– (talk) 20:19, 28 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Realistically, peak intensity was near the windmill footage, but lack of proper DIs screwed it up. In addition, AFAIK there are no known photos of it in Greenfield. I might try and get the DOW team to release a radar shot to PD. Wildfireupdateman :) (talk) 06:00, 29 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Email sent to Wurman, not expecting a reply though. Wildfireupdateman :) (talk) 06:12, 29 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Good news and bad news.

Good news: I got pictures

Bad news: I'm a dumbass and there's already a DOW image in there. Not sure about peak intensity though. Also not PD. Wildfireupdateman :) (talk) 02:39, 31 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Good news! Anticomp said that radar images are inherently PD per https://copyright.gov/comp3/chap900/ch900-visual-art.pdf 909.3(B)! I've uploaded the image. Wildfireupdateman :) (talk) 03:31, 31 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@Wildfireupdateman: @EF5: I found one! This is a more relevant and clearer image of the tornado in all of its multi-vortex and Cthulu-esque glory approaching Greenfield from the south. With you folks' approval, I'll replace the Reed Timmer image, but again as there's multiple people in this discussion I'll run it through discussion. It's from this AMS blog about the tornado and the DOW team's methodology.Departure– (talk) 16:59, 5 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Nope. Per FAC, we're going to go with the Reed Timmer video unless some kind soul donates a free image of the storm. Still a good image, though. Departure– (talk) 18:21, 7 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I've replaced the image with a screenshot from INCREDIBLE TORNADO VS WIND TURBINE DRONE FOOTAGE by Reed Timmer. The infobox photo was a copyright violation but hasn't been deleted on Commons yet. I don't know if my edit summaries were enough notification so I'm saying it here. Departure– (talk) 15:16, 4 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]