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Abdul Ahad Azad is currently a Language and literature good article nominee. Nominated by --Ratekreel (talk) at 19:36, 13 October 2024 (UTC)

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Short description: Kashmiri poet, historian and literary critic

A fact from Abdul Ahad Azad appeared on Wikipedia's Main Page in the Did you know column on 16 October 2024 (check views). The text of the entry was as follows:

Did you know... that Abdul Ahad Azad is recognised for laying the foundations of literary criticism in Kashmiri literature?

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The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was: promoted by AirshipJungleman29 talk 11:52, 1 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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... that Abdul Ahad Azad was the first Kashmiri poet to introduce revolutionary themes to Kashmiri literature? Source: Kachru, Braj B. (2023). Kashmiri literature. A history of Indian literature / Series editor Jan Gonda Vol. 8, Modern Indian-Aryan literatures, part 1 (Reprint 2020 ed.). New Delhi: Manohar. pp. 55–58. ISBN 978-93-88540-55-1.
- ALT1: ... that Abdul Ahad Azad laid the foundations of literary criticism in Kashmiri literature? Source: Gauhar, G. N., 1934- (1997). Abdul Ahad Azad. Sahitya Akademi. New Delhi: Sahitya Akademi. pp. 50–58. ISBN 81-260-0322-7. OCLC 37993483. Archived from the original on 22 September 2024. Retrieved 22 September 2024.{{cite book}}: CS1 maint: multiple names: authors list (link) CS1 maint: numeric names: authors list (link)
- ALT2: ... that Abdul Ahad Azad was the first Kashmiri poet to introduce revolutionary themes and literary criticism in Kashmiri literature? Source: Above
- Reviewed:

5x expanded by Ratekreel (talk). Number of QPQs required: 0. Nominator has fewer than 5 past nominations.

Ratekreel (talk) 00:00, 28 September 2024 (UTC).[reply]

Interesting article, thanks. I will review this shortly. Onceinawhile (talk) 09:52, 29 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks, Onceinawhile. Ping me when you do. Ratekreel (talk) 10:47, 29 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Ratekreel: I like ALT2 as it is surprising to be the first at both revolutionary themes and literary criticism. I don’t think the word “Kashmiri” is needed before poet? Please could you provide a quotation from the source that supports the claim as written in ALT2? Onceinawhile (talk) 11:33, 29 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, sure. I also prefer ALT2 (forgot to mention in nomination). Here are the quotes from the books cited above. For introducing revolutionary themes, see:

In this sense, then, Azad introduced revolutionary themes and a revolutionary spirit in Kashmiri poetry...It was, as Kaul says, "a nazm, a poem much longer than the ghazal, though written in ghazal radif (end-rhymes), with a unity of theme, and, secondly the theme was boldly revolutionary."
Azad was not only a poet; he also compiled the first history of Kashmiri language and poetry, Kashmiri Zabaan aur Sayirir ("Kashmiri Language and Poetry").
— Braj Kachru, The Modern Period (1900-1947), Kashmiri Literature: A history of Indian literature, pp. 57-58

Kaul, above, is referring to Azad's poem, Shikwa-i-Iblis. For being the first literary critic, see:

It is Azad who has laid down the foundation of criticism in Kashmiri language...To evaluate Kashmiri verse, Azad had a deep understanding of the various trends in our literature. He had grasped well the socio-political compulsions of our history to assess, in an objective manner, his predecessors and contemporaries. To arrive at the best conclusions in his assessment of art and thought of Kashmir he made deeper study of philosophies which had some impact on Kashmir creativity.
— Ghulam Nabi Gowhar, Abdul Ahad Azad, pp. 50

Maybe, we could also include that he composed first history of Kashmiri language and poetry (covered by Kachru), in ALT2 or I'll maybe propose a new ALT. --Ratekreel (talk) 14:42, 29 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

General: Article is new enough and long enough
New enough: Long enough:

Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems
Adequate sourcing: Neutral: Free of copyright violations, plagiarism, and close paraphrasing:

Hook: Hook has been verified by provided inline citation
Cited: Interesting:

QPQ: Done.

Overall: Completed review of the article, pending completion of the hook discussion. Onceinawhile (talk) 15:47, 29 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Ratekreel: I am fine with your suggestion to amend the hook. Whatever you decide, please could you add a version of the hook, with citations, to the article lead. Many thanks. Onceinawhile (talk) 15:47, 29 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Done (see diff). I propose the following hook:

ALT3 ... that Abdul Ahad Azad was the first poet to introduce revolutionary themes and literary criticism in Kashmiri literature, and composed the first history of the Kashmiri language and its poetry?

This is covered by both the quotations I've added above. --Ratekreel (talk) 16:09, 29 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Good to go. @Ratekreel: I made a few typographical improvements to ALT3 in this edit - hopefully ok for you? Onceinawhile (talk) 16:15, 29 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Onceinawhile, looks good to me. --Ratekreel (talk) 16:43, 29 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]