Talk:Airport Parkway (Ottawa)
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2 lane freeway? Expressway?
[edit]Since when is the Airport Parkway a freeway? I've cycled on it numerous times as there is no prohibition against bicycles, which is sort of a fundamental requirement for it to be a freeway (or as the British more honestly call them, motorways). Nor is it an expressway as it is not a dual carriageway for much of its length. It might just be able to claim to be a "2 lane expressway", if such a concept exists. This article reeks of having been written by someone who can't see past the hood ornament. I'm cleaning this up accordingly.--D P J 15:13, 25 September 2007 (UTC)
- Not all freeways ban bicycles. It is technically a freeway, since it is fully controlled access (except on the airport grounds). CrazyC83 (talk) 23:58, 14 December 2008 (UTC)
- The Airport Parkway is not considered an expressway by the MTO criteria, which specifically include that the highway be divided. The "expressway" characterization was likely added by some overzealous staffer at city hall, ahead of the contemporary push to ban cyclists from using the AP. 174.115.100.93 (talk) 22:08, 9 October 2019 (UTC)
Rename to Airport Parkway (Ottawa)
[edit]- The following discussion is an archived discussion of the proposal. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.
The result of the proposal was move. JPG-GR (talk) 01:10, 15 August 2008 (UTC)
- Compare discussions at Talk:Bronson Avenue (Ottawa)#Requested move. Anthony Appleyard (talk) 05:31, 10 August 2008 (UTC)
I am posting a move request to change this article name to Airport Parkway (Ottawa), so that the disambiguation page Airport Parkway (disambiguation) can claim the "Airport Parkway" name. There are highways called "Airport Parkway" all over the world, and there is no reason to think that the one in Ottawa is the primary usage of that name. --Orlady (talk) 16:42, 9 August 2008 (UTC)
- That disambiguation page is a joke. It is full of links to cities, not other roads named "Airport Parkway". Until you can prove that these alleged roads are worthy of articles (create the pages), the page should stay where it is. --Pwnage8 (talk) 22:21, 9 August 2008 (UTC)
- The existence of these other roads is easily verified, and we don't normally provide citations on disambig pages, rather we assume good faith. So perhaps, you might provide any evidence you have that these other roads either do not exist, or are not notable? Andrewa (talk) 13:28, 10 August 2008 (UTC)
- Discussion moved from WP:Requested moves (in italics)
- Airport Parkway → Airport Parkway (Ottawa) — The disambiguation page Airport Parkway (disambiguation) should have the "Airport Parkway" name. There are highways called "Airport Parkway" all over the world, and there is no reason to think that the one in Ottawa is the primary usage of that name. — Orlady (talk) 16:48, 9 August 2008 (UTC)
- Airport Parkway (disambiguation) → Airport Parkway — "Airport Parkway" is a generic name, so for user convenience the disambiguation page Airport Parkway (disambiguation) should have the "Airport Parkway" name. — Orlady (talk) 16:48, 9 August 2008 (UTC)
- These moves are controversial as they involve reverting a move made one month ago, that was based on consensus. 128.232.1.193 (talk) 18:47, 9 August 2008 (UTC)
- Do not move there is no other article with the name "Airport Parkway", so the page should stay where it is until other articles on these alleged roads are created. The dab page listed only links of cities, not roads, and the other two articles are train stations, so there is no need to disambiguate. --Pwnage8 (talk) 22:32, 9 August 2008 (UTC)
- My apologies for failing to notice the discussion of this that led to consensus. Actually, in spite of thorough searching, I have been unable to find the discussion. Can you point me to it? (From searching through the histories, I do now see that the move request was posted here on 7 July as "uncontroversial" and the article was moved 6 hours thereafter, but "not contested within 6 hours" is not the same as "consensus.") --Orlady (talk) 23:32, 9 August 2008 (UTC)
- Support moves. We should also restore the contents of the disambig removed contrary to the Manual of Style. Andrewa (talk) 13:10, 10 August 2008 (UTC)
- Comment I created an article about one of the numerous other "Airport Parkways", Airport Parkway (Jackson, Mississippi, metropolitan area). The highway does not yet exist, but it's clearly notable. Planning on it started in 1992, it's expected to cost $400 million, much has been written and published about it, and it was discussed in at least three Wikipedia articles before I created this one. I think this article serves to demonstrate my contention that the Airport Parkway in Ottawa is not the primary usage of that name. Note: It might be possible to simplify the convoluted article name, but I have the impression that there are multiple "Airport Parkways" in the U.S. state of Mississippi, so I think it might not be sufficient for the parenthetical to be just "Mississippi". --Orlady (talk) 13:26, 10 August 2008 (UTC)
- We really need three entries to make the disambig mandatory. Pennsylvania Route 60 might be another relatively easy one, see http://pittsburgh.pahighways.com/expressways/aparkway.html which gives some more useful links on the subject. Andrewa (talk) 13:49, 10 August 2008 (UTC)
- Support. Way too common of a name and there are already several articles in place as well as several similar names. Clear;y there is no primary use here and that should be the deciding factor. Vegaswikian (talk) 00:28, 11 August 2008 (UTC)
- Support. There is a clear disambiguation issue. Croctotheface (talk) 03:16, 11 August 2008 (UTC)
- Support clear ambiguity and no primary meaning. — AjaxSmack 00:41, 12 August 2008 (UTC)
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