Talk:Ancient Iranian religion

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Similarity between Vedic and Iranic gods

Please add a part where similarity between Vedic and Iranic gods are clearly mentioned so that people can clearly know about them. 223.187.89.184 (talk) 05:56, 27 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

A way out of the dilemma

The german Wikipedia distinguishes between indoiranian, ancien iranian and ancient persian religion based on William W. Malandra: An introduction to ancient iranian religion. Minneapolis 1983, page 4. See article. It could be a way out of the dilemma of the inconsistent literature concerning achaimenid and ancien iranian religions. Best regards Falten-Jura (talk) 05:14, 5 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Original research

The topic of pre-Zoroastrian Iranian beliefs is an important one that deserves a well-researched and comprehensive article. This article is not. Apart from the introduction, there are no (and I mean no) sources cited. Given its length, this is astonishing, to say the least. Furthermore, the claims made in the article are often very dubious, so I would be surprised if good sources could be provided for them. In fact, large parts of the article look like original research from the author, which is in clear violation of Wikipedia's policies.

There are too many examples for this phenomenon in the article, so I will list just three. First, the article claims that Varuna was worshipped by the Iranians. This idea is often associated with Mary Boyce, but this is simply a speculation by her and not a single source demonstrates that. Second, the article asserts that Ahura Mazda was the creator of heaven and earth. However, this is a Zoroastrian idea. Some scholars speculate that Mazda was worshiped by non-Zoroastrians, but there are again no sources that demonstrate that and certainly none that show he was seen as the principal god of creation. Thirdly, the article claims that Thvarstar appears under the name Spenta Mainyu. However, not only is there no source for that, Spenta Mainyu is, in fact, widely considered to be an innovation by Zarathustra. The list could go on, but I will stop it here.

In conclusion, the article presents many topics as a consensus, when they are in fact hotly debated, often doesn't distinguish between Zoroastrian and non-Zoroastrian concepts and sometimes seems to even make things up. I am not sure how these problems could be solved, but a fundamental revision, possibly from scratch, seems necessary.Kjansen86 (talk) 19:12, 20 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]