Talk:Anna Akana

Contested deletion

This article should not be speedily deleted for lack of asserted importance because... Anna Akana is a notable person as she is a producer, filmmaker, actress, and YouTube celebrity with over 1 million subscribers. She was featured in the San Diego Asian Film Festival and was awarded the film festival's first ever digital pioneer award. She has collaborated with several notable people from Wikipedia: Wong Fu Productions, Daniel Radcliffe, and Ray William Johnson and produced 6 short films. She is active in the suicide prevention community and wrote a novel titled "Surviving Suicide". --User:DaisyChung (talk) 09:12, 17 December 2014 (UTC)

Someone who makes a novel is NOT notable, someone who a million people have watched is not notable. Collaborations are not notable. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Russianarmy13 (talk • contribs) 18:46, 2 February 2015 (UTC)

• Please note that the user who contested the deletion is the creator of the "article" him/herself. --89.0.235.97 (talk) 17:47, 23 May 2015 (UTC)

Clearly promotional

This "article" is clearly promotional. Almost all the cited references are text and video created by Akana herself, and the tone of the prose is riddled with unencyclopedic formulations.

What's more, the page was written in basically its current form by a single user who didn't work on a single article before or since and who didn't make a single edit past the very day they instated the article, clearly indicating that the "article" was completely written well before the page was created on Wikipedia and that the account is very likely a throwaway sockpuppet used by a professional promotional editor or agency working for Akana.

The "article" should be deleted, or at the very least stubbed. --89.0.235.97 (talk) 17:28, 23 May 2015 (UTC)

Removal of ALL criticisms

Anna Kay Akana is clearly the creator of this article and is using her "fame," which other YouTubers like Bart Baker have but don't have an article about them, to propel her social status. She also seems to be deleting all criticisms about her. I'm going to put a controversies section and talk about her saying she wants to rape a man. With a bunch more things. Please by wary Anna is deleting everything that criticizes her.

Anna herself is contesting the page's deletion, as shown above. Nobody else, other than a hardcore fan, would want this page to NOT be stubbed or deleted. I am now going to go through and remove all of the unimportant stuff.

Anna Kay Akana is only using this page to propel her status. Proof? LOOK at this article. NOBODY with a measly 1 mil subs needs an article about themselves. Not even Bart Baker, who is a whole lot more well known than Anna with several times the subscriber base has one (he really should, though).

94.204.90.103 (talk) 20:15, 8 August 2015 (UTC)

Please read Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Anna Kay Akana where you will see that several experienced Wikipedia editors who are not particular fans of the subject agreed to keep the article. I, for one, had never heard of her until i discovered the article in the course of checking pages tagged for deletion. Also look at the histroy and you will see that a number of experienced regular editors have contributed to this article. "She also seems to be deleting all criticisms about her" is a serious accusation, please provide diffs or other clear evidence of specific edits, or withdraw it, as per No personal attacks.

Removing sourced content can be seen as disruptive editing, and can lead to you begin blocked from further editing. DES ^(talk) 20:42, 8 August 2015 (UTC)

Rape comments

in the section "Video: How not to Get Raped" there is now a discussion of comments Akana made about how she might want to rape someone if she could. This was split into a separate "controversies" section, and this split has been reverted. I didn't like the rather hostile tone of the split, but perhaps this does belong in its own section, it isn';t really about the video "How not to Get Raped"

In the current section the youtube video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n9eCnLkTMxk was cited to support the statement that the remarks on rape offended the "men's rights movement". This link seems to be to a copyvio -- the video is an unautorized copy of the podcast in question, it seems, associated with a large number of comments. Those comments are not reliable sources, as per WP:FORUM and the copyvio should not be included, see WP:ELNO and related policies on not linking to copyvios. Also there is no indication that the people making comments were in any way part of the "men's rights movement". This event probably needs to be included, but it needs to be better cited than it is now. I have removed the link noted above. DES ^(talk) 12:53, 9 August 2015 (UTC)

Reddit site was cited for Mens Rights Movement outrage

The comments in it were filled with it. Also, I do agree the split was partially necessary, but we need to put this in another section, maybe not controversies. After all, in the small world of Akana, saying something like that, even when Anna has stated on occasion jokes about rape aren't to be tolerated, this is worthy of being placed in the Wikipedia article. I guess the "outrage in Mens Rights community," although blatantly true has to be removed, but we can't stop criticism from going through. Does anybody know which section it should go in?

94.204.90.103 (talk) 16:27, 11 August 2015 (UTC)

Reddit is NOT normally a reliable source The general comments never are, and should not be cited. A fact with no better source than that does not belong in any article, still less a WP:BLP. DES ^(talk) 22:17, 15 August 2015 (UTC)

Challange of content

I am formally noting that i challenge the accuracy of the content "This caused outrage amongst not only feminists, but also among the men's rights movement, as she stated that men could not receive erections unless the sex was consensual, something which is obviously false. Unless this can be cited to a reliable source promptly, I will remove it as per WP:V and WP:BLP. If removed, it should not be restored unless a citation is provided with the restoration or reasonably promptly thereafter. This content was tagged with two CN tags days ago. DES ^(talk) 22:23, 15 August 2015 (UTC)

I found a source where she said it would be fun to rape, but I can't find a source for the other stuff, feel free to delete 174.91.84.171 (talk) 06:10, 18 August 2015 (UTC)

I know fans want this to say what they want to read, and I shall discomfit them

To editor Mcelite: Please read WP:SPS. Also, this biography is not a fan page. We are not in the business of communicating what's true. You would do well to discuss. Chris Troutman (talk) 02:04, 3 April 2019 (UTC)

I stuck with the source from NBC also the other sources are directly coming from her not a fan/fans but from her personally. Her word counts more than any interviewer or anything written by a journalist talking about her.Mcelite (talk) 02:08, 3 April 2019 (UTC)

To editor Mcelite: Have you read SPS? I asked you to because you have twice restored it. It doesn't matter if it comes from her. Our biographical articles should not draw from what the subject says about themselves, especially without the editorial board of an independent publication between the subject and the readers. Please do not persist. Chris Troutman (talk) 11:13, 3 April 2019 (UTC)

You clearly have no interest in improving the article and didn't read a thing from the NBC source. You just did a power move and undid everything without reading the source material and put no effort into finding other reliable sources so yeah that was mature. Then you had me blocked before responding on the talk page. A person's own words about themselves has more weight than an independent publication in some cases.Mcelite (talk) 16:08, 3 April 2019 (UTC)

@Mcelite: "didn't read a thing from the NBC source" Yeah, I did. That's how I know what it didn't cover. I'll admit I couldn't get the video to play but I assume the text includes everything discussed. "put no effort into finding other reliable sources" I'm not trying to make this article longer; I'm not sure this article should even exist. Please read WP:VOLUNTEER. The subject's fans don't own the topic, either. "Then you had me blocked" Clearly, if you're editing this then you're not blocked. I'm also not an admin so I cannot block you. "A person's own words about themselves has more weight..." Nope. Please read WP:42. If Wikipedia is trusted, it's because we remain objective and prevent corporations, governments, and others with a material stake in the subject from slanting the article. Do you think we should defer to Donald Trump regarding what the article about him says? No? Same deal here. Chris Troutman (talk) 16:16, 3 April 2019 (UTC)

I saw the stop sign logo so that triggered me. The article clearly states about her Japanese and Filipino heritage that should be restored. I do know how wiki works I disagree with not acknowledging her own words when it comes to her birthday and her heritage. "Do you think we should defer to Donald Trump regarding what the article about him says?..." Don't get me started on Donald Trump. I'm not a actual fan of hers but yes she's notable even if some people consider her unimportant. This is annoying I don't have the time to search to see if she mentions her age in an interview. If you have to time I'm actually asking for help I find it embarrassing that we're not mentioning when she was born.Mcelite (talk) 16:24, 3 April 2019 (UTC)

About Fate

Does anyone know what happened with her and about fate? There was a press release, but she doesn't seem to be in the film at all Bposert (talk) 03:11, 24 September 2022 (UTC)

Page needs major revision

This is clearly a vanity page that somehow made it past final approval and was NOT written in a neutral manner.

It is very clear that the subject's close friends or people she hired wrote this page. You can see the self-aggrandizing on this page all the way from outer space. 98.10.17.162 (talk) 20:24, 24 January 2024 (UTC)

agreed. it reads like a paid advertisement. 2A02:2F0C:C203:D400:687F:26DC:96C1:85CE (talk) 07:52, 25 February 2024 (UTC)