Talk:Avinash Sachdev
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Don't pull the trigger just yet
[edit]Note to editors: I started this article in response to an article request after a previous effort was deleted as a copyvio. I know nothing specific about Indian "soapies" but did some research in a library database, turning up articles from the Times of India, New Straits Times, and similar papers. This actor is certainly notable. Give me a few days to read the articles and write him up. Due to the holidays, if I don't get to it by the deadline, I'd appreciate an extension — if you remember. — ℜob C. alias ÀLAROB 21:12, 27 December 2011 (UTC)
- Article expanded with references. — ℜob C. alias ÀLAROB 06:48, 28 December 2011 (UTC)
- Well done!--CharlieDelta (talk) 08:52, 28 December 2011 (UTC)
Don't make unsourced changes
[edit]This article is about a soap opera star with a large following. Please refrain from adding unverified information. Someone changed the religion of Sachdev's parents in this article, which caused a minor controversy on this online forum. Just because you can edit the article doesn’t mean you should. Got it?
On the same subject: Don't remove source citations from the article. They are there for a reason. — ℜob C. alias ÀLAROB 19:47, 26 June 2012 (UTC)
Unsourced/poorly sourced content
[edit]RYLELT7, please do NOT restore or add poorly sourced or unsourced content. You claim that all your content was sourced, but it was not. Extensive content sourced to primary sources (such as extensive interviews with Sachdev) is inappropriate on Wikipedia. Wikipedia articles should be summarized from what independent and journalistic sources say on a topic. Waggie (talk) 03:10, 14 December 2020 (UTC)
- Waggie, Please take a look at sourced content number 3. The information provided in the Early Life section happens to be support the content listed. However, you are constantly removing it. Secondly, you are removing content in the acting career section but somehow it is okay to leave it in the television section??? — Preceding unsigned comment added by RYLELT7 (talk • contribs) 03:15, 14 December 2020 (UTC)
- RYLELT7, regarding the content in the early life section, as I said earlier, I removed the content in the early life section because it is excessive and promotional, and sourced to a primary source. Wikipedia purpose is not to repeat what article subjects say about themselves, Wikipedia articles should be summarized from what independent and journalistic sources say about a topic. Are you suggesting I should trim the Television section of unsourced/poorly sourced material, as well? I may do that, but the unsourced/poorly sourced prose was a bigger concern in my eyes. Also, as I noted on your user talk page, if you have a connection to the article subject (which it seems you may have), you are required to disclose that per Wikipedia's Terms of Use. Thank you, and best wishes. Waggie (talk) 03:25, 14 December 2020 (UTC)
- Waggie, Okay. I don't really seem to understand where promotional activity seemed to occur in the early life section. In terms of "promotional", do you mean that I am promoting something of my use? And, I do not have a connection with this article subject. I was trying to improve the article. At least this time, 50% of the article was not removed. In the coming days, I'll continue to provide sourced content for this page and please keep monitoring until it seems to be acceptable. Thanks for your clarification, Waggie. Best wishes and stay safe.
- RYLELT7, regarding the content in the early life section, as I said earlier, I removed the content in the early life section because it is excessive and promotional, and sourced to a primary source. Wikipedia purpose is not to repeat what article subjects say about themselves, Wikipedia articles should be summarized from what independent and journalistic sources say about a topic. Are you suggesting I should trim the Television section of unsourced/poorly sourced material, as well? I may do that, but the unsourced/poorly sourced prose was a bigger concern in my eyes. Also, as I noted on your user talk page, if you have a connection to the article subject (which it seems you may have), you are required to disclose that per Wikipedia's Terms of Use. Thank you, and best wishes. Waggie (talk) 03:25, 14 December 2020 (UTC)
Restoring to a previous version
[edit]Lead section - The start to the sentence "Having starred in many television soaps..." was removed. He starred in five television soaps, not "many". Every actor/actress stars in several shows, films, and so forth. The removal of the genre preceding the show's name and the years following the show's name was unexplained.
- Early and personal life section Sachdev's early life and his personal life can be easily distinguished so the two sections being merged together is unneeded. For example, his early life section talks about his birthplace and where he was brought up from, where he completed his education, and his interest in filmmaking production. For his personal life, the section talks about his past and current relationship.
- Acting career section The writing style did not meet an encyclopedia's standards. First, readers interested in his career section would unlikely find anything of interest regarding which production company the show was associated with. It does not develop his career section, it does not inform anything important, and does not drive the topic of discussion. The removal of some information in the previous version was also unexplained.
- The opening to the second paragraph with
Sachdev next turned antagonist for two more Balaji Telefilms productions
and then later connected withHe essayed a single negative part in the former & a double antagonistic role in the latter
is incoherent. - The opening to the third paragraph in
Sachdev unexpectedly found his first most notable work
leads to impaired communication with the reader. What does it mean that he "unexpectedly" reached success? - The leaps that are being presented, for example,
Five months later in February 2011
, andPost a two years gap
is unnecessary. We don't need to track timestamps of events that had happened. - The attempts to create complex structures may be awkward, as in,
Sachdev achieved his second consecutive biggest break in August 2013
andHis act led him to be nominated for two awards at Star Parivaar Awards.
- The choice of description to inform the readers that the show "ended" is fine, but words like "wrapped up", "culminated", and "terminated" are awkward.
- The opening to the second paragraph with
- Awards and nominations section - The inclusion of Star Parivaar Awards goes against the community consensus and is prohibited from inclusion. Star Parivaar Awards in an "in-house" award event that basically gives itself the award, but in the hands of the characters, ultimately making the award not notable on Wikipedia.
- In addition to all of this, the provided references were unreliable (TellyChakkar, Telly Awards, Zingmag, Wikibio, etc...) See WP:RS. Fizconiz (talk) 18:38, 1 May 2021 (UTC)
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