Talk:Azerbaijan in the Early Middle Ages

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“The Albanians received an honorary degree for being Shapur's military ally. ” Likely mistranslation Elinruby (talk) 05:49, 7 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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This actually all parses quite well. It is fairly dense but given the scope of what it is trying to cover, this comes with the territory, as does the use of foreign terminology. I have quite heavily wikilinked it, and hope this will help. But any history of any region in this period, pretty much, will be an account of feudal relationships and invasions. There will be vocabulary that is unfamiliar to those who are not familiar with the region. This is not to say that the article cannot be improved, just that there really wasn’t much wrong with the English and it’s been somewhat improved now. I will try flagging it for expert attention Elinruby (talk) 10:40, 22 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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– The name “Azerbaijan” historically belongs to Azerbaijan region in Iran. According to scholarly consensus, there was no such entity called “Azerbaijan” based in the Caucasus before 1918, when the Republic of Azerbaijan was created on lands historically known as Arran and Shirvan (and in antiquity as Caucasian Albania).

The current titles are completely anachronistic and misleading. Editors have also regularly had to remove content from this page, which had been added by people unaware that the content was about the Azerbaijan region in Iran. 2A01:CB06:B034:59D8:8510:C09:402B:A13A (talk) 06:32, 27 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Support: Article should probably get AFDed (this is like having an article named "The United States of America in the Early Middle Ages"), but I guess this will do for now. --HistoryofIran (talk) 07:54, 27 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Comment. I would think the main article for this would be history of Azerbaijan? The other issue is that we have Stone Age in Azerbaijan and Bronze and Iron Age in Azerbaijan. Mellk (talk) 06:18, 28 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
That’s the main issue of Wikipedia not disambiguating the Caucasian republic as “Republic of Azerbaijan” in the first place. Before its name change, North Macedonia was at “Republic of Macedonia”, not at “Macedonia”, on Wikipedia. It should be the same for the Republic of Azerbaijan. I requested the move at Talk:Azerbaijan a few days ago, which was rejected tersely by some user under the pretense of WP:SNOW.

The last two articles shouldn’t even exist in the first place (they were all created by the same user). We don’t have “Stone Age in [modern country]” or “Bronze and Iron Age in [modern country]” articles on Wikipedia, precisely because it makes no sense. If it were at least “Stone Age in modern-day [modern country]”, it would make a bit more sense, but that doesn’t solve the need to disambiguate the Caucasian republic.

For more information, you can read Azerbaijan naming controversy. 2A01:CB01:1001:F0F3:546C:6212:EAB4:ADC1 (talk) 08:58, 28 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
We still have history of North Macedonia, but this is not limited to modern history. I do not think it is feasible to merge these articles to history of Azerbaijan. This is probably why North Macedonia under the Ottoman Empire was split. If there is consensus to change the scope of the article, then sure, it might make sense to move. I have not really reviewed any of the sources. Mellk (talk) 09:29, 28 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]