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Toon

Copies from my talkpage for future reference regarding the local name in the infobox: I believe I have satisfied the overbearing policy requirements to add this fact to the article, with an article in the Toon's local newspaper online - the Ballymoney and Moyle Times. I will leave the link here and edit the article as necessary. If necessary, you could add the citation yourself at a later date if anyone else objects to this simple, but not globally known, fact. --81.135.29.171 (talk) 08:43, 24 May 2011 (UTC). Bjmullan (talk) 22:00, 24 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Scots

Bellymoney, is that something you buy food with? Any references for the use of Bellymoney by Scots-speakers that predate the 1990s? 92.11.52.106 (talk) 19:28, 7 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I wish people who write Ulster Scots on Wikipedia would write things right! The Ulster Scots name for Ballymoney is 'Belliemunie', it is a Scots take on the original Irish name Baile Mónaidh, pronouced "bal-a maun-ee" — Preceding unsigned comment added by 213.122.223.179 (talk) 17:53, 2 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I did Google it when you changed it, but found nothing. Everything on Wikipedia needs to verifiable and backed up by a reliable source, which Bellymoney is (by the Ullans Speaker Association) and "Belliemunie" currently isn't. If you can find a source online that says Ullans speakers use Belliemunie, then please do add it back in. JonChapple ^Talk 18:03, 2 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I agree that the Ulster Scots spelling is 'Belliemunie', and you will hear towns people say the name this way. The reason behind the spelling is that 'y' is not a commonly used letter in Ulster Scots, and is common substituted with 'i' or 'e' when short and 'ie' when long e.g. Derry becomes 'Derrie'. Ullans however is primarily more a literature composite of Ulster Scots, rather than a primarily spoken part of the language. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.147.168.121 (talk) 05:19, 17 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I'd love to keep "Belliemunie", but it's not written down anywhere and so can't be sourced. The only published reference to an Ulster-Scots name for Ballymoney is "Bellymoney" from the BBC. How exactly is "Belliemunie" pronounced? "bal-a-MAUN-ee", like the Gaelic? — JonC ^ॐ 21:01, 18 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Ballymoney Primary School

A bold statement about a vote going through regarding it's integrated needs a reliable source. DColt (talk) 18:27, 3 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

No category!

Someone must have been forgetful. No Category:Ballymoney but at least four categories for elements related to it:

Category:Ballymoney United F.C.

2 members (1 subcategory, 0 files) - 2013-06-29T09:38:12

Category:Ballymoney United F.C. managers

2 members (0 subcategories, 0 files) - 2013-02-05T11:16:03

Category:Arklow Geraldine's Ballymoney Gaelic footballers

2 members (0 subcategories, 0 files) - 2013-04-19T22:40:04

Category:People from Ballymoney

37 members (0 subcategories, 0 files) - 2013-05-22T00:55:37

Familypedia has a category for it. Robin Patterson (talk) 00:14, 10 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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Pronunciation

I'm a little concerned with the IPA guide on pronunciation for this. In fact this particular town name is probably not going to be the worst offender, but I'll start here.

If you hover your mouse pointer over the IPA text, the popup text reads "Help: IPA/Irish". Anyone who's ever spent much time listening to Irish people, or anyone from the British Isles, will know that the wealth of accents and pronunciations vary wildly from region to region.

With the standardisation of Irish Gaelic being a more southerly thing, omitting Ulster dialect amongst others, I am prone to thinking that the "Irish IPA" is possibly biased towards non-Ulster dialects. The pronunciation guide suggests [ˈbˠalʲə ˈmˠʊnˠəi], which definitely gives a more southern 'twang' to the 'O' in the town name. A more correct pronunciation guide would be closer to ba:la'mɔni: or ba:liˈːmɔni.

I've no idea where to direct this discussion in Wikipedia with regard to more northern pronunciations, but there is a huge difference between pronunciations in most of Ulster versus the rest of the island. In most of the Republic, they tend to round their vowels more, similarly to many southern English accents. In Ulster, the vowels are more flat.

I'm certainly not an expert on IPA, and perhaps somebody else could tweak it, but I'm going to give a go at changing the article to reflect local pronunciation better. --81.154.197.205 (talk) 19:57, 30 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Troubles section

This follows the inclusion criteria of the redirected The Troubles in Ballymoney (and similar articles). Two or more fatalities in an incident is the agreed standard, or notable incident (has own article) or notable person involved (has own article). Per WP:ONUS, consensus would be needed to change this for other incidents to be included. FDW777 (talk) 14:50, 1 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]