Jump to content

Talk:Crisis on Infinite Earths (Arrowverse)

Page contents not supported in other languages.
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Is the DCEU Earth 89?

[edit]

Given that it was just reported that Michael Keaton will be replacing Ben Affleck as Batman in the upcoming Flashpoint movie, does that mean Ezra Miller’s flash and the DCEU was a part of earth 89 this entire time? Ms8763 (talk) 19:26, 22 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Not necessarily, Keaton’s Batman would be coming over from Earth-89 to introduce the Multiverse. Like Mysterio in Far From Home as he initially presented himself, not who he really was--BaseFree (talk) 19:32, 22 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Right.. he's not "replacing Affleck, he's playing an alternate version. Spanneraol (talk) 20:19, 22 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]
I was so focused on the multiverse placement aspect of the inquiry I missed the part about Keaton "replacing" Affleck, which is just ridiculous. We don’t even have concrete details on implementation anyway--BaseFree (talk) 03:56, 23 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]
This is all super speculative at this time. Keaton might not even appear, as all trades were clear this is very early days. Regardless, we can only go by what we've seen in the Arrowverse episodes, and they confirm the Burton film's exist on Earth-89. Whatever the films choose to do will have no bearing on this, unless explicit mentions are made to the television series. Anything else would just be us fans connecting imaginary lines. - Favre1fan93 (talk) 15:13, 23 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Especially since in the CW Crisis the whole Multiverse was restarted making the fate of Earth-89 truly unknown Maxcardun (talk 7 July 2:41 PM — Preceding unsigned comment added by 12.33.200.98 (talk) 18:42, 7 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Did you know nomination

[edit]
The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was: rejected by BlueMoonset (talk) 06:58, 14 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Original GA review was reverted, and subsequent review ended in failure; article does not qualify for DYK.

(
)

Improved to Good Article status by Favre1fan93 (talk). Self-nominated at 14:48, 28 October 2020 (UTC).[reply]

  • @Favre1fan93: Promoted to GA on 28th October, sourced and neutral. Earwig flagged quotes and titles therefore it's 56.9% but it should be fine. Hooks interesting and referenced. Images in the article are either free or fair use. QPQ done. ALT1 seems more interesting, but it currently links to the comic book, not the crossover, so please fix that. Corachow (talk) 15:47, 28 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • @Corachow: My apologies about the incorrect link in ALT1, I've fixed that. I looked at the Earwig, and yes many of the top ones flagged are for the reviews where quotes are used. The second link is Rotten Tomatoes, and the third EW source I'm not sure why it's flagging so high. - Favre1fan93 (talk) 16:58, 28 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • For the EW article, Earwig was mainly flagging quotes, names and titles, if possible I would suggest rephrasing the sentence The Smallville material in the crossover was shared with Smallville co-creator Alfred Gough before filming began in the writing section. Corachow (talk) 17:55, 28 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • The review was reverted, and a subsequent review by an experienced reviewer has been failed. The nominator has requested that it be reopened, so this DYK nomination should not be closed until a response is made by the reviewer. It will always be possible to submit a new DYK nomination should the GA review stand. BlueMoonset (talk) 19:51, 12 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • The reviewer has responded and will not be reopening the review. Since the article is not a GA, the DYK nomination cannot continue. Closing as unsuccessful. Note that should a subsequent GA nomination succeed, a new DYK nomination can be made at that time. BlueMoonset (talk) 06:58, 14 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

GA review undone

[edit]

Pinging Favre1fan93 per the conversation at Wikipedia_talk:Good_article_nominations#Recent_flurry_of_GA_Reviews_and_Noms_that_seem_somewhat_hurried... I've undone the GA review of this article (for the record, the review is at User:TheEpicGhosty/Crisis on Infinite Earths (Arrowverse)/GA2 but could be deleted in the future if the reviewer chooses). My apologies for the inconvenience. I've re-added the GAN template to the top of this talk page with the original time stamp, so it should return to the queue in it's original place. I hope all is well on your end. Ajpolino (talk) 22:22, 3 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

GA Review

[edit]
GA toolbox
Reviewing
This review is transcluded from Talk:Crisis on Infinite Earths (Arrowverse)/GA2. The edit link for this section can be used to add comments to the review.

Reviewer: David Fuchs (talk · contribs) 22:45, 6 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]


In progress Der Wohltemperierte Fuchs talk 22:45, 6 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Overall, the article is a solid start, however I think there are some major concerns that need to be addressed for GA quality.

  • General/coverage:
    • I'm not really sure why the "tie-in" stuff is put before the development of the actual crossover event itself.
    • Likewise, it's weird that the production info starts with a bunch of forward-facing announcements instead of talking about the development and writing.
    • Isn't the Aftermath stuff tie-ins to the show as well? Why is it listed at the very end of the article?
  • Prose:
    • The article is not very accessible to someone who doesn't know anything beyond the basics about the Arrowverse. The plot is dense and largely impenetrable without context. The plot section starts with "To prepare for the coming crisis" without any explanation of what that crisis is, for example.
    • The article has severe issues with repetitious phrasing of the "On X date, Y" especially early on in the production section.
    • There's also way too many uses of quotes. At the extreme end it's a potential copyright issue, but on a more pragmatic level it just makes the prose tougher to read. It's hard to get through two sentences without a quote in it; in the fifth paragraph of writing, there's literally a quote almost every single sentence.
      • Also a problem is the over-use of individual critics when you reach the reception sections; a single reviewer should not be given 250 word paragraphs solely on their own opinion, for instance.
  • Media:
    • There's not a really compelling fair use rationale for File:Crisis on Infinite Earths (Arrowverse) second poster.jpeg, especially since there's already a poster being used for the purposes of identification.
    • Likewise you can't really just hotlink non-free media in the prose like the title comparison as you do (the entire digression of the character appearing in the logo appears UNDUE as well.)
  • References:
    • What makes Cinema Blend a reliable source? I note WP:VG has specifically called it out as as unreliable.
    • There's a lot of content here that is inappropriately referenced to primary sources, for example the statements that certain actors do not appear in credited episodes.
    • Spot-checked statements attributed to current refs 2, 4, 5, 13, 19, 20, 28, 60, 73, 78, 100, 103, 119, 136, 147, 156, 162, 173, 182, 198, 200, and 212.
      • Ref 2 doesn't discuss Oliver Queen being sent to gather items to stop the event.
      • Ref 13 doesn't specifically say all the universes mentioned were destroyed.
      • Ref 28 gives the voice for the Monitor, not the Anti-Monitor.
      • Ref 162 says a full trailer was released, but the source still calls it a teaser.

Given that the issues with the organization and prose are pretty systemic, I'm failing the article. When the nominator feels it meets criteria it can be relisted at WP:GAN. If you have any further questions, you can reach my at my talk page. Der Wohltemperierte Fuchs talk 19:04, 12 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@David Fuchs: Thank you for your comments. However, I must disagree that these issues couldn't have been something I could have addressed with you and worked through, instead of you outright failing the article without my ability to address them. I hope you will reconsider your outright failing of this. - Favre1fan93 (talk) 19:19, 12 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Whether to hold or fail outright is within the discretion of the reviewer. When every aspect of an article needs some level of improvement, that's not something that can generally be done or done well within a hold period. Der Wohltemperierte Fuchs talk 11:57, 13 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

why not add an episodes list?

[edit]

Is there any particular reason that there isn't an episodes list here or even links to the episodes of the story arc? Ironically, in the sidebar, you can click to links for previous and next episodes in each story's continuity, but not the actual episodes. Would be nice to have the synopsis/descriptions of all the five episodes on one page to understand how the story flows.

This is the article for the episodes. Individual articles for each of the episodes don't exist. DonQuixote (talk) 13:59, 1 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]
How is Crisis on Infinite Earths (Arrowverse)#Plot not the synopsis/descriptions of all the five episodes on one page to understand how the story flows? - Favre1fan93 (talk) 19:06, 1 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Retrieved from "https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Crisis_on_Infinite_Earths_(Arrowverse)&oldid=1205144174"