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Gnomes are mythological non-human creatures by definition. I surmise that somebody added non-human to forestall confusion with words used to describe humans of short stature. The term gnome would or should never be used in an encyclopedic context to denote a human being, as it is highly offensive. In a strictly medical setting, the terms dwarf and midget are acceptable (distinct syndromes). And in general polite conversation, there is not much need to remind people of their height, as they tend to be quite aware. 2A01:CB0C:CD:D800:95B:B5DC:38E5:ED07 (talk) 07:49, 9 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
The reason that's there is because of the rather odd (to me anyway) choice of the midget and dwarf community to be called "little people" which I honestly don't think I could say with a straight face; I never had similar lulziness associated with midget or dwarf, but at the same time I don't call people what they are when talking to them so who cares. (Oh hey White Ted, how's it going?) I don't know any little people personally, but there'd be no reason to actually call them that or midget or dwarf. I'd call them Bob or Tim or Sue or whatever their name was like I do with everyone else.
Anyway someone likely saw that, probably a 20 year old white male college student who talks about their black friend a lot, and decided it could be offensive to someone and made sure we knew that these weren't human gnomes, but the garden variety kind. A Shortfall Of Gravitas (talk) 03:13, 16 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
A common misconception for those who seek to use DMT is that it is similar to a derivative of it; 5-MeO-DMT. They are completely different compounds regardless of how chemically similar they may appear. While DMT is referred to as "The Spirit Molecule" and is the main component in Ayahuasca, 5-MeO-DMT is considered "The God Molecule". This is an important distinction to make as going into either experience with misguided expectations can lead to a negative outcome. DMT tends to be perceived as more visual while 5-MeO-DMT has been reported to yield more unexplainable and incomprehensible experiences. Another distinction to be made is how either compound reacts when mixed with MAOI inhibitors. When DMT is ingested along with an MAOI inhibitor such as is contained by the Banisteriopsis caapi vine (the most common combination used to create ayahuasca), the experience can last up to 6 hours (and may be altered in other ways), as opposed to the common 15 minute DMT experience when it is ingested alone. When 5-MeO-DMT is ingested along with any MAOI inhibitor, the result can lead to cases of severe and lethal intoxication. 147luca (talk) 01:51, 24 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
People don't come to Wikipedia for harm reduction, there may be other resources for that. I think we should only make the distinction (example Template:Not_to_be_confused) if they sound similar that people might be confused, not because people consume one drug thinking it was another. If you have specific content changes, please propose them. --WikiLinuz (talk) 02:42, 24 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move reviewafter discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.
N,N-Dimethyltryptamine → Dimethyltryptamine – "N,N-Dimethyltryptamine" is a full valid chemical name while "dimethyltryptamine" is a widely used trivial name. Use of the term "dimethyltryptamine" is significantly greater than "N,N-dimethyltryptamine" in the literature and in general per Google ([1] vs. [2]; 861k vs. 313k results), Google Scholar ([3] vs. [4]; 17.6k vs. 12.2k results), and PubMed ([5] vs. [6]; 1,305 results vs. 1,187 results). Moreover, the drug recently received an International Nonproprietary Name (INN) of "dimethyltryptamine" last year ([7]). Hence, per Wikipedia policies including WP:COMMONNAME, WP:OCHEMNAME, WP:PHARMMOS, and WP:MEDTITLE, which state that the most commonly used trivial name in the scholarly literature and/or INN should be used for drug/compound article names, "dimethyltryptamine" should be the title of this page instead of "N,N-dimethyltryptamine" and I propose that we move the page. Thanks. – AlyInWikiWonderland (talk, contribs) 02:30, 27 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Support. All other N,N-dimethyltryptamines (4-phosphoryloxy, 5-methoxy, 4-hydroxy, etc) usually leave the N,N out of the common name since it's kinda implied unless specified otherwise. Same with various modifications (DET / MET / DIPT / DPT), etc. Specifying location of the methyls gets more important for weird things like 5-MeO-AMT if one chooses to call it by the awkward "alpha,O-dimethylserotonin" because one has eaten too much 5-MeO-AMT. --A Shortfall Of Gravitas (talk) 02:31, 16 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.
