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Strategy and External Affairs Directorates was nominated for deletion. The discussion was closed on 14 October 2020 with a consensus to merge. Its contents were merged into Directorates of the Scottish Government. The original page is now a redirect to this page. For the contribution history and old versions of the redirected article, please see its history; for its talk page, see here.

This article clearly needs updating. I am copying a note from my talk page below to assist anyone wanting to grasp how the system is supposed to work. Ben Mac Dui 11:49, 9 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Afraid sorting out the articles for the component parts of the Scottish Government is a daunting task. It used to be easy, pre-2007, when the Scottish Government was made up of Departments (which were in turn made up of Groups, then Divisions, then Branches - give or take a few oddities). But since 2007, the Department level of the structure has been removed, although the Directors-General who were formerly Department heads have been retained. For pay and rations purposes, and some bits of organisation, things are routed through DGs, but the theory is that the Directorate is the new building block of the organisation.

Unfortunately this is hard to represent on Wikipedia. Previously there were a half-dozen articles corresponding to the Departments. But creating individual articles for each Directorate would be overkill. When someone mistakenly tried to equate old Departments with new Directorates some time ago, I tried to adjust the articles to show that they related to groupings of Directorates rather than an individual Directorate. The most recent changes to the SG article seemed to be falling back into the old Department=Directorate trap. So while, strictly speaking, there is no such entity as the "Scottish Government Learning and Justice Directorates" etc, it at least follows the format set out at http://www.scotland.gov.uk/About/Directorates showing which Directors report to which DGs, and it provides a convenient structure. There's a fair amount of change going on, with various Directorates being renamed or restructured (we have fun trying to keep the signs up-to-date). And there are always some bits that just don't fit - I currently report to two different Directors, who in turn report to two different DGs.George Burgess (talk) 21:01, 22 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Agencies

The agencies in the pre-July article included:

HM Inspectorate of Education
Student Awards Agency for Scotland
Social Work Inspection Agency
Disclosure Scotland
Historic Scotland
National Archives of Scotland
Scottish Public Pensions Agency
Keeper of Registers of Scotland
Transport Scotland
General Register Office
Mental Health Tribunal for Scotland
Scottish Housing Regulator
HM Inspectorate of Constabulary
HM Inspectorate of Prisons
Scottish Fire & Rescue Advisory Unit
Forestry Commission Scotland

It is not clear which Directorates they are responsible to. Ben Mac Dui 13:31, 9 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

New Directorates articles

Hello

We need new articles created for two SG DG families - one for Corporate Directorates and another for Exchequer Directorates.

We can then link to these once created to ensure the SG structure pages are as up to date as possible.

There is source material for both the Corporate Directorates and the Exchequer Directorates on the SG website which will allow you to draft these new articles.

Many thanks. 2A00:23C6:BC8B:C301:25A1:6FD4:A68E:B96F (talk) 15:23, 9 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]