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Q1: Doesn't Everywhere at the End of Time depict dementia? (Yes, but...)

A1: ... Alzheimer's disease is the most common type of dementia, being the cause of over 60% of dementia cases. The titles of Stage 5 reference Alzheimer's disease symptoms, and Kirby has spoken that the album reflects "specific symptoms which can be common with the progression and advancement of the different forms of Alzheimer's." Simply saying "Alzheimer's disease" rather than "dementia" makes for much more precise wording without sacrifing readability, even if "dementia" is sometimes used to avoid repetition.

Q2: Should the album's Internet popularity be demonstrated in the lead section? (Yes.)

A2: Yes. The lead should mention the album's Internet popularity throughout the early 2020s, including the Friday Night Funkin' mod. The TikTok trend was noted by Kirby in several interviews, and it led to the album amassing a much wider public. The FNF mod establishes notability by demonstrating the album's relevance on media other than music, and all this still keeps the lead concise.

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August 24, 2021	Peer review	Reviewed
March 23, 2022	Featured article candidate	Promoted
A fact from this article appeared on Wikipedia's Main Page in the "Did you know?" column on August 1, 2021. The text of the entry was: Did you know ... that the album series Everywhere at the End of Time (2016–2019) by the Caretaker uses ballroom records to depict the stages of Alzheimer's disease?
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Section sizes

Section size for Everywhere at the End of Time (19 sections)
Section name	Byte count	Section total
(Top)	4,277	4,277
Background	1,992	1,992
Music and stages	5,142	19,402
Stages 1–3	6,757	6,757
Stages 4–6	7,503	7,503
Production	2,998	2,998
Artwork and packaging	4,023	4,023
Release and promotion	6,301	6,301
Critical reception	4,976	7,484
Accolades	2,508	2,508
Impact and popularity	5,509	6,787
Scientific response	1,278	1,278
Track listing	4,520	4,520
Personnel	186	186
Release history	2,573	2,573
See also	425	425
Notes	24	24
References	76,105	76,105
External links	954	954
Total	138,051	138,051

Did you know nomination

The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was: promoted by Cwmhiraeth (talk) 09:48, 30 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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... that the album series Everywhere at the End of Time (2016–2019) by the Caretaker uses ballroom records to depict the stages of Alzheimer's disease? Source: "Springing from the fabric of The Shining's haunted ballroom and Jack Nicholson's caretaker character, [...] With the Everywhere at the End of Time series being an artistic reflection on the stages of Alzheimer's," ([1])
- ALT1:... that the album series Everywhere at the End of Time (2016–2019) by the Caretaker explores the advancement of dementia over six and a half hours? Source: "Everywhere at the end of time was a series exploring dementia, its advancement and its totality." ([2], self-published by the author)

Improved to Good Article status by Wetrorave (talk). Self-nominated at 13:23, 13 July 2021 (UTC).[reply]

General: Article is new enough and long enough
New enough: Long enough:

Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems
Adequate sourcing: Neutral: Free of copyright violations, plagiarism, and close paraphrasing:

Hook: Hook has been verified by provided inline citation
Cited: Interesting:

QPQ: None required.

Overall: Nomination's new enough, and everything about the article checks out with flying colors; a very well put together and fascinating read, I must say. Default hook has more of a catching quality to it, so I'd go with that. This is the user's very first DYK nomination, so no QPQ needed. Extra kudos to the nominator for exposing me to this album. Cat's Tuxedo (talk) 04:44, 14 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Everywhere, an empty bliss

Everywhere, an Empty Bliss was released after stage 5 but before stage 6, even though stage 5 and 6 are grouped together. I think they should be separated. 2600:1001:B110:F6C5:494:FCF:A520:853E (talk) 13:33, 14 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Despite what the Bandcamp release dates may say, Stage 6 and Everywhere, an empty bliss were released on the same day. It's something that has been discussed in-depth on the Caretaker Discord channel but nobody really knows why albums released on the same day from the same artist on Bandcamp are listed as being [in most cases] 1 day apart, or [in this case] a lot further apart. Keebruce (talk) 20:53, 20 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

First note is wrong?

The name in the YouTube release doesn't appear to be sentence case (Everywhere at the end of time) but rather start case (Everywhere At The End Of Time) --Gert7 (talk · contribs) 18:45, 26 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

You're right. However, the YouTube release is the only release that displays start case other than Boomkat, which already has its own differences from the original. The LEITER release and the Bandcamp release both use sentence case. (The LEITER release is the one which went to all major streaming platforms, including YouTube Music, and features sentence case.) The version in the article title and first sentence should indeed be changed since they adopt neither format and instead use start case except for minor words such as 'at,' 'the,' and 'of.' Keebruce (talk) 21:33, 20 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The opening sentence of the article is unclear

I know this may seem like a minor complaint, but according to Google Dictionary, a recording in the context of this article can both mean "a recorded broadcast or performance" or "a disc or tape on which sounds or visual images have been recorded." If one states that Everywhere at the end of time is the 11th recording by The Caretaker, then they are wrong because Everywhere at the end of time is The Caretaker's fifteenth recording, and An empty bliss beyond this World is The Caretaker's actual eleventh recording. The article fails to take into account the existence of Recollected memories from the museum of garden history, Recollections from old London town, FACT Mix 45 / The Caretaker and the BBC Radio 6 Guest Mix, which are all recognized as official recordings by [3]https://thecaretaker.fandom.com/wiki/The_Caretaker_Wiki]. To avoid confusion, this should be changed from 'recording' to 'album' or changed to something like:

"Everywhere at the End of Time (commonly shortened to EATEOT) is the eleventh album* and fifteenth recording by the Caretaker, an alias of English electronic musician Leyland Kirby."

I understand that that level of specificity is not necessarily needed, but I would at least like to know what qualifies as a 'recording' and why this nomenclature is not consistent with other album pages such as the one for "Sgt. Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band":

"Sgt. Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band is the eighth studio album by the English rock band the Beatles."

or the page for "HIT ME HARD AND SOFT":

"Hit Me Hard and Soft is the third studio album by American singer-songwriter Billie Eilish, released on May 17, 2024, through Darkroom and Interscope Records."

Thanks!

From the asterisk: I am not sure whether Everywhere qualifies as a studio album or not since all samples used in the album series were recorded beforehand outside the "studio" of The Caretaker.

Keebruce (talk) 21:25, 20 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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