Talk:Freguesia
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Roles and Functions
[edit]There needs to be a section about the administrative roles and functions of freguesias, specifically the competencies of the Junta de Freguesia and Assembleia de Freguesia of a municipalities. Do freguesias have any legal authority to carry out administration functions or are they simply advisory bodies to the municipalities? --Criticalthinker (talk) 01:34, 28 February 2019 (UTC)
- They are not just advisory bodies, they have their own powers and responsibilities, just like municipalities do, at an upper level, ditto for regions, where applicable, and whole country too, at an even upper level. They are elected by the local population to rule the local territory. Why is this so difficult to comprehend?
- Also, the word "freguesia" should be translated into English as "commune", not the unyieldly and seriously misleading "civil parish".
- Tuvalkin (talk) 19:58, 2 June 2024 (UTC)
Requested move 23 September 2022
[edit]- The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.
The result of the move request was: Not moved. Per Privybst, with cultures around the world, it is hard or impossible to avoid loanwords for types of administrative divisions around the world. For the country name as a disambiguator concern made by Laurel Lodged, it is mostly used to disambiguate similar or same names of other administrative divisions, such as Oblasts of Ukraine and Oblasts of Russia. I can see a possible move from Freguesia to Freguesias of Portugal in the future. As far as I am aware of, Freguesias mostly address Portuguese or formerly Portuguese administrative divisions. (non-admin closure) Wikiexplorationandhelping (talk) 02:40, 1 October 2022 (UTC)
Freguesia → Civil parishes in Portugal – This is the English-language Wiki. Readers cannot be expected to know Portuguese. "Civil parish" is the usual translation. See also Civil parishes in Ireland. Laurel Lodged (talk) 16:27, 23 September 2022 (UTC)
- Oppose. As far as I can see the names of administrative units are not translated: Comarcas of Spain, Voivodeships of Poland, Oblasts of Ukraine, Mkhare, Frazione, Hromada, Bezirk, Județ, Gmina, Län etc. Because every culture is unique, it is impossible to avoid loanwords for types of administrative division in other countries. Privybst (talk) 22:46, 23 September 2022 (UTC)
- Reply All of the above examples use the country name as a disambiguator. So at the very least, this article should also have a country name as a disambiguator. Laurel Lodged (talk) 07:49, 29 September 2022 (UTC)
- @Laurel Lodged, not all the above examples. Privybst (talk) 07:50, 29 September 2022 (UTC)
- See also Municipalities and parishes of Macau which is a redirect from Freguesias of Macau. Laurel Lodged (talk) 07:51, 29 September 2022 (UTC)
- Reply All of the above examples use the country name as a disambiguator. So at the very least, this article should also have a country name as a disambiguator. Laurel Lodged (talk) 07:49, 29 September 2022 (UTC)
- Oppose As per above. 120.16.84.232 (talk) 02:48, 28 September 2022 (UTC)
- Oppose per above. Wikipedia is an encyclopaedia, not an idiot's guide for those incapable of reading an article or clicking on a bluelink. No idea why Ireland, an English-speaking country, should be relevant. -- Necrothesp (talk) 12:47, 28 September 2022 (UTC)
- Reply Ireland is relevant in demonstrating the correct standard to use in the English-lang wiki. Tone down the aggression please @Necrothesp:. Laurel Lodged (talk) 07:49, 29 September 2022 (UTC)
- Where's the "aggression"? As an English-speaking country it is self-evident that the article on Irish parishes uses the English term! However, we do not slavishly translate every single foreign term into English. That would be ignorant and unnecessary. -- Necrothesp (talk) 08:05, 29 September 2022 (UTC)
- Oppose per above. Cristiano Tomás (talk) 12:56, 28 September 2022 (UTC)