Talk:Hyperion (hypothetical planet)

Merge to Planets beyond Neptune

As per the tags currently on this page, it's not clear that this hypothetical object is notable or needs a standalone article; it can be covered in the general article about hypothetical planets beyond Neptune. Also, the only mention of the name "Hyperion" in the sources is this:

Babinet had pointed out that the orbital elements of the newly discovered Neptune were not in total agreement with the predictions of LeVerrier and Adams and that anomalies in the motion of Uranus persisted. He postulated a planet further out which he called Hyperion. After a long and thorough search, in 1930 Tombaugh discovered a planet, subsequently named Pluto rather than Hyperion, moving well beyond Neptune at 39.4 au.

...which isn't referring to the hypothetical planet described here, but to a much earlier hypothesis which is covered at the same linked article. SevenSpheres (talk) 21:07, 13 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Redirect: unsupported by the two sources given, although there is (was) certainly a hypothetical object referred to as Hyperion. Not even merge, since the material in this article appears to be contradictory and confusing (or confused). Kuiper belt#Kuiper cliff might make a good target for the article as written, although it doesn't mention the term Hyperion. Planets beyond Neptune is the obvious target, with section Planets beyond Neptune#Kuiper cliff and "Planet Ten" particularly relevant. The article describes "Hyperion" in the historical sense in an earlier section. Lithopsian (talk) 15:49, 14 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Support redirect per Lithopsian. I agree that the redirect target Planets beyond Neptune#Kuiper cliff and "Planet Ten" is appropriate. A search doesn't seem to yield much else other than this, which isn't all that much. There isn't even that much to justify a merge. Procyon117 (talk) 15:09, 16 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

A better section to redirect to would be Planets beyond Neptune#Early speculation, which mentions the hypothetical planet referred to by the title of this article rather than its current text. The Kuiper cliff section would be the merge target, if content is merged. SevenSpheres (talk) 00:42, 17 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Ah okay yeah I get it now. The article as it stands now does make it confusing, yeah. There does seem to be more hits about the previous hypothetical planet from the 19th century than the one from 2000. Procyon117 (talk) 07:06, 17 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]