Talk:Ibn Malka al-Baghdadi

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Why call him Abu'l-Barakāt al-Baghdādī when he was known by his Hebrew name Baruch ben Malka for most of his life until his conversion to Islam? Silberner Pfahl (talk) 14:51, 30 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Probably because his magnum opus, Kitab al-Mu'tabar, was written in Arabic and bore his Arabic name? Jews in those times and places frequently bore Arabic names alongside their Hebrew ones, and used them when writing in Arabic. Nahum (talk) 02:55, 18 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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It's impossible for Imam al-Rāzī to have met Ibn Malka

First off, Ibn Malka died in 560 hijri (1164-1165), he was in Baghdad (Iraq).

Imam al-Razi stayed with his father (who was also a scholar) since birth in Rey (Iran) learning from him until he passed away in 559 hijri (1163-1164 gregorian)
Source:
- Hadiyyat al-'Arifin, part 1, page 781 - Ismail Pasha (Arabic)

After this Imam al-Razi went to Semnan (Iran) to learn Kalam from al-Kamal al-Semnani, after that he went back to Rey (Iran).
Sources for this:
- Tarikh al-Islam, part 43, page 214 - al-Dhahabi (Arabic)
- Tabaqat al-Shafi'iyyah, part 8, page 86 - ibn al-Subki (Arabic)

Based on this, it is impossible for Imam al-Rāzī to have learnt from Ibn Malka.

The Arabic Wikipedia page of Imam al-Rāzī says exactly what I say:
“وعلى يدي والده ابتدأ فخر الدين طلبه للعلم في صباه، فتعلم العلوم الأولية فأغناه عن طلب العلم على يد سواه حتى وفاته عام 559هــ،”

“وبعد أن توفي والده، رحل الرازي إلى سمنان ليشتغل على كمال الدين أحمد بن زيد (الكمال السمناني) واشتغل عليه مدة ثم عاد إلى الري واشتغل على المجد الجيلي ولما طلب المجد مراغة للتدريس بها صحبه الرازي وقرأ عليه مدة طويلة الكلام والفلسفة.” سَيف الله (talk) 00:38, 5 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]