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"Illicit activities of North Korea"

I feel that moving this article to "Illicit activities of North Korea" would be more in line with typical title standards. That title currently redirects to this article. My reasoning is that articles on topics pertaining to a given nation almost never use the country's name in the possessive (e.g. "Government of Sweden" vs. "Sweden's government," which redirects to the former). Is there any objection to this? I should clarify that I take no stance on discussions the inclusion of "alleged" in the article title.) Titan Andromeda 05:19, 16 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]

I think that "Illicit activities of North Korea" sounds a bit strange and unnatural.--Jack Upland (talk) 05:45, 16 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]

I agree with TitanAndromeda's suggestion. The current title does not follow Wikipedia's conventions. Dimadick (talk) 08:32, 17 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Hm, I also agree. Maybe 'Illicit activities from North Korea' would flow better. Donkey Hot-day (talk) 00:45, 2 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

From doesn't sound right.--Jack Upland (talk) 03:42, 2 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Or 'by', 'in' etc....whichever preposition sounds right to people. They all feel like an improvement to me compared to the current title. Donkey Hot-day (talk) 21:06, 4 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Quite late but I came across this page in my Watchlist and decided to check in on this discussion. Given that the few responses are generally in favor of renaming, I've gone ahead and moved the page to my proposed name. I am watching this page in case there is any disagreement or further discussion. Titan Andromeda 20:47, 3 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Delete

This is a real stinker of an article; POV both in title and intent, poorly sourced, and with no obvious equivalents elsewhere on the Wiki (is the DPRK the only country in the world that conducts "illicit activity?" It's not in the top twenty). I know it's by now accepted that Wikipedia is a reflection of US foreign policy and NATO ethics, but surely this is too blatant to stand. This needs to go for deletion, yesterday. DublinDilettante (talk) 02:42, 14 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I think this article is problematic, but deletion is highly unlikely.--Jack Upland (talk) 06:50, 14 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Tusk, tusk

This might be useful: [1] Jack Upland (talk) 23:19, 25 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

wrong reference

Hi folks, No time and not knowledgeable enough at editing Wikipedia so excuse the blundering note here but the line According to the US Department of Justice in 2024, Bitcoin is North Korea's de-facto currency for sanctions-circumventing illicit trade. isn't backed up by the reference [19] that's a 2022 doc. As of right now i cant find the statement online, or anything like it, but I work in cybersec and think it was said before as it was my understanding it was so. It wouldn't be bitcoin though, just cryptocurrency (if at all).

Sorry for the terrible note. Thanks for your work! Darrenpauli0 (talk) 16:06, 27 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks. I have removed that sentence.--Jack Upland (talk) 00:09, 28 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]