Talk:Japan Air Lines Flight 351

Question on details

What happened to the airplane and crew which flew the hijackers to Pyongyang? Were they allowed to return immediately to Japan? Cla68 (talk) 06:59, 5 April 2010 (UTC)

North Korea approved the return of JL351 and its crews. They flew from Pyongyang to Haneda directly. Reading Japanese article, I found one interesting sentence. It says one American Pastor was on that plane. But he disappeared in Seoul and didn't seem to fly to Japan with other passengers. -218.221.111.100 (talk) 00:31, 29 November 2010 (UTC)

Landing of Flt 351 at Kimpo

Additional info: Kimpo was the "Port of "entry/exit" for all USA military personnel assigned to Korean bases at the time of this incident. WE American GI's stationed there at the time of the incident were instructed to hide our USAF vehicle, flags(anything American) and ordered to stay in our quarters until directed otherwise. The S. Koreas were going to attempt to "fool" the hi-jackers into thinking that they had landed in North Korea. Almost worked, but the hijackers thought that there was to long of a delay before diplomats came out to meet the so called "heroes". So, the aircraft set there for a couple of days with all types of weapons pointed at it. Few of us US GI's slept a wink while the situation existed. Finally, the passengers and part of the crew were released and replaced by the South Korean or Japan's Minister of Transportation as a hostage. It has been a while, but I believe the Minister was released after the plane reached the North. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 173.216.33.108 (talk) 03:52, 11 September 2013 (UTC)

None of this is in the article - which is very badly written - is there a Reliable Source that backs up your experience? 50.111.27.4 (talk) 13:30, 31 March 2020 (UTC)

Issues with the article

This is a very interesting article given that there was a Velvet Underground-inspired noise rock band associated with it and two influential and important passengers on this flight. It definitely needs a rewrite, however. I did not know why they did any of this until the end of the section. If anybody is fluent, maybe we could take and rewrite from the Japanese version of this article? Just an idea. Ted (talk) 23:31, 31 March 2020 (UTC)

Inconsistent Math in Pax Count

There's an issue with the math on passenger and crew counts and survivors. 122 passengers (excl. hijackers) + 7 crew = 129 total (again, excl. hijackers), which ties to the number of survivors, except that the article says the survivor count includes the hijackers.

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Contradictions with documentary video

According to this documentary with 6.6 M views, they landed in a fake North Korean airport that was actually located in South Korea, but equipped with North Korean flags, North Korean military waiting to honour them, and also the Airport intercom honouring their arrival to fool them into believeing they actually are in North Korea.

When they entered alleged North Korean air space, there were also pretendedly North-Korean fighter jets firing in their direction, but these were reportedly just for show.

The article claims "Despite this, the hijackers quickly realised that they had been tricked", but according to the documentary at 17 minutes, the hijackers were fooled and entered a shuttle bus that was set up to isolate them. Unfortunately, their description mentions no sources.

The end of the video mentioned that "The Insane Hijacking of Japan Airlines Flight 351 (part 2)" would come soon, but it never came.

EstherLoer (talk) 13:21, 19 April 2022 (UTC)

The article also implies that Takaya Shiomi the mastermind, was arrested after the hijacking took place, even though the video states he was arrested prior to it. Iamnotflour (talk) 18:24, 10 March 2023 (UTC)

Where did the hijacking group want the plane to go?

In the "hijacking" section, there is a description of "The hijackers then took 129 people (122 passengers and seven crew members) hostage and commanded the pilots to fly the plane to Havana, Cuba, where they intended to receive training by communist military groups." However, in the Japanese edition and Korean edition, they describe it as "犯人グループは男性客を窓側に移動させたうえで、持ち込んだロープにより拘束し、一部は操縦室に侵入して相原航空機関士を拘束、石田機長と江崎副操縦士に平壌に向かうよう指示した。(The hijacking group moved the male passengers to the window side, restrained them with ropes they had brought in, and some entered the cockpit to restrain flight engineer Aihara, instructing Captain Ishida and First Officer Ezaki to head to Pyongyang.)" and "범인들은 남성객을 창가에 이동시킨 다음 가지고 온 로프로 이동시킨 승객들을 묶고 일부는 조종실에 들어가 항공기관사를 인질로 하여 기장과 부기장에게 조선민주주의인민공화국의 수도인 평양으로 향하도록 지시했다.(The perpetrators moved the male passengers to the window, tied up the passengers with ropes they had brought with them, and instructed the captain and first officer to fly to Pyongyang, the capital of the Democratic People's Republic of Korea, with the aircraft attaché as hostage.)" In short, both versions mention that the hijacking group was aiming for Pyongyang from the beginning. Which one is correct, I wonder? Cookie4782 (talk) 12:08, 6 February 2025 (UTC)