Talk:List of monetary reformers
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[edit]There are two subgroups of Austrian/libertarian money reformers, Free Bankers and Rothbardians. If/when the article expands, and if it seems like a good idea, this could also be mentioned. --Mats33 (talk) 22:39, 2 September 2011 (UTC)
Call it a greenback-approach instead?
[edit]Instead of keynesian/green approach? --Mats33 (talk) 11:41, 9 September 2011 (UTC)
Whats wrong with this title?
[edit]"Greenbackers" (central bank issues all national money) --194.69.15.20 (talk) 15:33, 20 February 2012 (UTC) Those who talk mostly about alternative currencies also want a national monetary reform. And those who talk mostly about a national monetary reform are not opposed to alternative currencies. So its questionable to divide them, as most of them are both pro-national monetary reform (a la greenbackism) and pro-alternative currencies, as commplement. --194.69.15.20 (talk) 15:33, 20 February 2012 (UTC)
Messy and then some
[edit]This article, who's most recent and biggest contributor is a now-blocked sockpuppet, is a royal mess. It essentially bundles together various strands of information to make the case for supposedly "monetary reformers." Well, we do not have any kind of agreement in sources about the terms used, even. What some, a fringe minority, call "reform", others call "nonsense." The reference to the well known Bank of England paper is no help: The paper simply presents the no longer contested analysis of money creation in a modern economy; nothing to do with the subject of the article. (Plus, the link is not to the BoE paper itself, but to a HuffPost article sympathetic to the cause of the "reformers"!) -The Gnome (talk) 15:23, 8 July 2018 (UTC)
- Some rather obvious POV phrasing in the lead. I tweaked it a bit, but it needs to be clear that these views are very much minority viewpoints. Ravensfire (talk) 01:21, 9 July 2018 (UTC)
- Not just "minority viewpoints" but conclusively false as well, per sources. (The difference is important. For instance, the majority of Macroeconomics currently taught nowadays are fundamentally erroneous.) Bundling historical figures such as Abraham Lincoln in a list of "monetary reformers" is indicative of viewpoint-pushing. One may agree or disagree with such a position, but we do not have sources that support such outrageous WP:COATRACK. It's our old "friends" from Poz Money again. -The Gnome (talk) 04:08, 9 July 2018 (UTC)
- The main article, Monetary reform, is another fine mess, by the way, and for the same reasons. -The Gnome (talk) 04:10, 9 July 2018 (UTC)
- Whether it is minority viewpoints, right or wrong doesnt matter. This article is not about whether these monetary reformers are right or wrong. I think, however, that we should only have people on the list who have articles on Wikipedia on their own. And where these articles describes them as monetary reformers, of some kind, with references. Regarding the article "monetary reform" I think it looks messy because it tries to cover several kinds of monetary reform proposals and discourses into one article. For example monetary creation from the central banks instead of the commersial banks and barter and local currencies, which is another, related, discussion. --Mats33 (talk) 07:04, 9 July 2018 (UTC)
- Examples:
- "Stephen A. Zarlenga... was a researcher and author in the field of monetary theory, trader in stock and financial markets, and advocate of monetary reform."--Mats33 (talk) 07:00, 9 July 2018 (UTC)
- "Richard Douthwaite... In The Ecology of Money, published in 1999, he calls for different currencies for different purposes and for changes in the way money is put into circulation so that a stable, sustainable economy can be achieved."--Mats33 (talk) 07:07, 9 July 2018 (UTC)
- "Gerald Grattan McGeer (6 January 1888 – 11 August 1947) was a lawyer, populist politician, and monetary reform advocate in the Canadian province of British Columbia."--Mats33 (talk) 07:11, 9 July 2018 (UTC)
- "Murray Newton Rothbard was an American heterodox economist of the Austrian School... (and) the founder and leading theoretician of anarcho-capitalism... He called fractional-reserve banking a form of fraud and opposed central banking."--Mats33 (talk) 07:14, 9 July 2018 (UTC)
- "Michael Rowbotham is a political and economic writer and commentator based in the UK who is primarily known for his two books,[1] The Grip of Death: A Study of Modern Money, Debt Slavery, and Destructive Economics (1998)[2] and Goodbye America (2000).[3][4]"--Mats33 (talk) 07:16, 9 July 2018 (UTC)
- "Margrit Kennedy (November 21, 1939, Chemnitz - December 28, 2013,[1][2] Steyerberg) was a German architect, professor, environmentalist, author and world authority on and advocate of complementary currencies and an interest- and inflation-free economy.[3]"--Mats33 (talk) 07:18, 9 July 2018 (UTC)
- The confusion that reigns in and about the realm of so-called "monetary reform" is exemplified by the inclusion of Abraham Lincoln in the List of monetary reformers. Yay, greenbacks!.. Ol' Abe needs to be told. -The Gnome (talk) 15:37, 17 July 2018 (UTC)
Citations required
[edit]Following WP:BLP policy, living persons should not be entered into a list unless there is a supporting reference given. As such, I will remove those entries that are uncited after a brief period of time to allow citations to be found. LK (talk) 08:31, 17 September 2020 (UTC)