Talk:Malcolm IV of Scotland

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Inconsistency

Deacon of Pndapetzim (Talk) 19:06, 27 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

The article claims, in two different places, that he died at 23 and at 25. The birth and death dates given at the top make his age at death 24. Can someone with access to a reliable source fix this? 91.105.22.150 18:57, 27 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

According to the ODNB, birthdates given, he was 24 at death. Other than that, couldn't comment. Maybe other sources disagree with Scott's birthdate. Deacon of Pndapetzim (Talk) 19:06, 27 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Meaning of name Malcolm

From internet baby websites I gather that Malcolm means "follower of the dove" and by extension refers to a servant or follower of St.Columba - the prolog/leader gives the translation of Malcolm into Gaelic and Old Gaelic but not the English meaning ... I think this would be useful to know. Perhaps it's too trivial? I'm sure a Gaelic speaker or student of Old Gaelic could provide some illumination here. See eg Index of Names in Irish Annals: Máel Coluim / Maol Choluim. Pbhj (talk) 00:11, 28 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Rex designatus ?

This title means nothing to me nor provides insight into what is contained in the section. If you would like to make it more approachable for others, could someone who knows the subject change the title to this section? SADADS (talk) 01:22, 27 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Agreed. A Google search for "rex designatus" gives this page! I assume it means something like "designated king." Robertcornell68 (talk) 06:08, 27 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

It does, yes. But doesn't it find Earl Henry as well? Whatever the reason I picked that originally, and I have no idea what it might have been, it would be best to change it to something less cryptic now. Angus McLellan (Talk) 10:52, 27 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

How about Heir Apparent? SADADS (talk) 15:41, 27 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

David?

I think I fixed the ambiguous David in the first section can someone check it. Thanks SADADS (talk) 01:16, 23 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Ancestry

Hello, I have an idea to add his ancestry:

Ancestors of Malcolm IV the Maiden of Scotland (1141–1165)^[1]^[2]^[3]^[4]^[5]^[6]^[7]^[8]

16. Duncan I of Scotland^[2]^[15]^[20]

8. Malcolm III of Scotland^[2]^[4]^[15]^[16]

17. Suthen^[21] (b. as Sybilla?)

4. David I of Scotland^[1]^[2]^[4]^[12]

18. Edward the Exile^[2]^[15]^[22]

9. Saint Margaret of Scotland^[2]^[4]^[15]^[16]

19. Agatha^[2]^[15]^[22]

2. Henry of Scotland, Earl of Northumbria and Huntingdon^[1]^[2]^[4]^[10]

20. Siward of Northumbria^[21]

10. Waltheof of Northumbria^[2]^[17]

21. Ælfflaed

5. Maud of Huntingdon^[2]^[13]

22. Lambert II of Lens

11. Judith of Lens^[2]^[17]

46. Robert I of Normandy^[2]

23. Adelaide of Normandy^[2]

1. Malcolm IV of Scotland^[1]^[2]^[4]^[9]

24. Rodulf/Ralph de Warenne

12. William de Warenne, 1st Earl of Surrey^[5]^[6]^[7]^[8]^[18]

25. Emma

6. William de Warenne, 2nd Earl of Surrey^[5]^[6]^[7]^[8]^[14]

26. Gerbod of Oosterzele^[5]^[6]^[7]^[8]

13. Gundrada of Surrey^[5]^[6]^[7]^[8]^[18]

3. Ada de Warenne^[1]^[2]^[4]^[11]

28. Henry I of France^[23]

14. Hugh I of Vermandois^[19]

58. Yaroslav I the Wise of Kiev^[23]

29. Anne of Kiev^[23]

7. Elizabeth of Vermandois^[14]

30. Herbert IV of Vermandois^[24]

15. Adelaide of Vermandois^[19]

31. Adele of Valois^[24]

References

^ ^a ^b ^c ^d ^e A Genealogical and Heraldic History of the Peerage and Baronetage, the Privy Council, Knightage, and Companionage, pp 47–48
^ ^a ^b ^c ^d ^e ^f ^g ^h ⁱ ^j ^k ^l ^m ⁿ ^o Oram, David, p. 10 Cite error: The named reference "<2" was defined multiple times with different content (see the help page).
^ F. Weis, W. Sheppard, W. Beall, K. Beall, Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists who Came to America Before 1700, pp 2, 102–103, 161–162
^ ^a ^b ^c ^d ^e ^f ^g Foundation of medieval genealogy: Scotland, kings and England, anglo-saxon and danish Kings
^ ^a ^b ^c ^d ^e Early Yorkshire Charters, ed: William Farrer, Charles Travis Clay, Volume VIII - The Honour of Warenne (The Yorkshire Archaeological Society, 1949), pp. 40-46
^ ^a ^b ^c ^d ^e Anderson, Freda (1992). "Uxor Mea: The First Wife of the First William of Warenne". Sussex Archaeological Collections. 130: 107–8. doi:10.5284/1086107.
^ ^a ^b ^c ^d ^e Elisabeth van Houts, 'Epitaph of Gundrada of Warenne', Nova de Veteribus, Mitel-und neulateinische Studien fur Paul Gerhard Schmidt (K.G. Saur, Munchen Leipzig, 2004), p. 372
^ ^a ^b ^c ^d ^e P. Anselme de Sainte-Marie, Histoire de la maison royale de France et des grands officiers de la Couronne, V.6 (Estienne Loyson, 1674), p. 26
^ F. Weis, W. Sheppard, W. Beall, K. Beall, Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists who Came to America Before 1700, p. 162
^ Frederick Lewis Weis, Walter Lee Sheppard, William Ryland Beall, Kaleen E. Beall, Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists who Came to America Before 1700, pp 103, 162
^ Frederick Lewis Weis, Walter Lee Sheppard, William Ryland Beall, Kaleen E. Beall, Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists who Came to America Before 1700, pp 52, 103, 162
^ Frederick Lewis Weis, Walter Lee Sheppard, William Ryland Beall, Kaleen E. Beall, Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists who Came to America Before 1700, pp 147, 162
^ Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists who Came to America Before 1700, p. 147
^ ^a ^b Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists who Came to America Before 1700, pp 52, 88–89
^ ^a ^b ^c ^d ^e A Genealogical and Heraldic History of the Peerage and Baronetage, the Privy Council, Knightage, and Companionage, p. 47
^ ^a ^b Frederick Lewis Weis, Walter Lee Sheppard, William Ryland Beall, Kaleen E. Beall, Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists who Came to America Before 1700, pp 2, 162
^ ^a ^b Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists who Came to America Before 1700, p. 102
^ ^a ^b Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists who Came to America Before 1700, p. 88
^ ^a ^b Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists who Came to America Before 1700, pp 51–52, 62
^ Frederick Lewis Weis, Walter Lee Sheppard, William Ryland Beall, Kaleen E. Beall, Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists who Came to America Before 1700, pp 161–162
^ ^a ^b Frederick Lewis Weis, Walter Lee Sheppard, William Ryland Beall, Kaleen E. Beall, Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists who Came to America Before 1700, p. 161
^ ^a ^b Frederick Lewis Weis, Walter Lee Sheppard, William Ryland Beall, Kaleen E. Beall, Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists who Came to America Before 1700, p. 2. Cite error: The named reference "<6" was defined multiple times with different content (see the help page).
^ ^a ^b ^c Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists who Came to America Before 1700, p. 62
^ ^a ^b Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists who Came to America Before 1700, p. 51

Sources:

Bernard Burke, Ashworth P. Burke. A Genealogical and Heraldic History of the Peerage and Baronetage, the Privy Council, Knightage, and Companionage. 1934
Oram, Richard; David: The King Who Made Scotland, (Gloucestershire, 2004).
Frederick Lewis Weis, Walter Lee Sheppard, William Ryland Beall, Kaleen E. Beall. Roots of Certain American Colonists who Came to America Before 1700: Lineages from Alfred the Great, Charlemagne, Malcolm of Scotland, Robert the Strong, and Other Historical Individuals 2008. ISBN 0806317523, ISBN 9780806317526
Early Yorkshire Charters, ed: William Farrer, Charles Travis Clay, Volume VIII - The Honour of Warenne (The Yorkshire Archaeological Society, 1949)
Anderson, Freda (1992). "Uxor Mea: The First Wife of the First William of Warenne". Sussex Archaeological Collections. 130: 107–8. doi:10.5284/1086107.
Elisabeth van Houts, 'Epitaph of Gundrada of Warenne', Nova de Veteribus, Mitel-und neulateinische Studien fur Paul Gerhard Schmidt (K.G. Saur, Munchen Leipzig, 2004)
P. Anselme de Sainte-Marie, Histoire de la maison royale de France et des grands officiers de la Couronne, V.6 (Estienne Loyson, 1674)

Additional source:

Foundation of medieval genealogy: Scotland, kings. England, anglo-saxon and danish kings.

Dmitry Azikov (talk) 20:49, 28 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

[<1-1] A Genealogical and Heraldic History of the Peerage and Baronetage, the Privy Council, Knightage, and Companionage, pp 47–48

[<2-2] ^ ^a ^b ^c ^d ^e ^f ^g ^h ⁱ ^j ^k ^l ^m ⁿ ^o Oram, David, p. 10 Cite error: The named reference "<2" was defined multiple times with different content (see the help page).

[3] F. Weis, W. Sheppard, W. Beall, K. Beall, Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists who Came to America Before 1700, pp 2, 102–103, 161–162

[<7-4] ^ ^a ^b ^c ^d ^e ^f ^g Foundation of medieval genealogy: Scotland, kings and England, anglo-saxon and danish Kings

[Clay-5] Early Yorkshire Charters, ed: William Farrer, Charles Travis Clay, Volume VIII - The Honour of Warenne (The Yorkshire Archaeological Society, 1949), pp. 40-46

[<Anderson-6] Anderson, Freda (1992). "Uxor Mea: The First Wife of the First William of Warenne". Sussex Archaeological Collections. 130: 107–8. doi:10.5284/1086107.

[<Houts-7] Elisabeth van Houts, 'Epitaph of Gundrada of Warenne', Nova de Veteribus, Mitel-und neulateinische Studien fur Paul Gerhard Schmidt (K.G. Saur, Munchen Leipzig, 2004), p. 372

[<Anselme-8] P. Anselme de Sainte-Marie, Histoire de la maison royale de France et des grands officiers de la Couronne, V.6 (Estienne Loyson, 1674), p. 26

[9] F. Weis, W. Sheppard, W. Beall, K. Beall, Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists who Came to America Before 1700, p. 162

[10] Frederick Lewis Weis, Walter Lee Sheppard, William Ryland Beall, Kaleen E. Beall, Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists who Came to America Before 1700, pp 103, 162

[11] Frederick Lewis Weis, Walter Lee Sheppard, William Ryland Beall, Kaleen E. Beall, Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists who Came to America Before 1700, pp 52, 103, 162

[12] Frederick Lewis Weis, Walter Lee Sheppard, William Ryland Beall, Kaleen E. Beall, Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists who Came to America Before 1700, pp 147, 162

[13] Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists who Came to America Before 1700, p. 147

[<9-14] Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists who Came to America Before 1700, pp 52, 88–89

[<3-15] A Genealogical and Heraldic History of the Peerage and Baronetage, the Privy Council, Knightage, and Companionage, p. 47

[<4-16] Frederick Lewis Weis, Walter Lee Sheppard, William Ryland Beall, Kaleen E. Beall, Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists who Came to America Before 1700, pp 2, 162

[<8-17] Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists who Came to America Before 1700, p. 102

[<10-18] Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists who Came to America Before 1700, p. 88

[<11-19] Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists who Came to America Before 1700, pp 51–52, 62

[20] Frederick Lewis Weis, Walter Lee Sheppard, William Ryland Beall, Kaleen E. Beall, Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists who Came to America Before 1700, pp 161–162

[<5-21] Frederick Lewis Weis, Walter Lee Sheppard, William Ryland Beall, Kaleen E. Beall, Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists who Came to America Before 1700, p. 161

[<6-22] Frederick Lewis Weis, Walter Lee Sheppard, William Ryland Beall, Kaleen E. Beall, Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists who Came to America Before 1700, p. 2. Cite error: The named reference "<6" was defined multiple times with different content (see the help page).

[<12-23] Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists who Came to America Before 1700, p. 62

[<13-24] Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists who Came to America Before 1700, p. 51

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