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Ideas for improvement

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To expand the "production" section. Many newspapers have covered it. Punkmorten (talk) 11:05, 19 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I agree, there could be more written on casting, research etc. Also I think the historical debate around the movie could be in a separate section. The review section is getting a bit bloated on the other hand, we don't need every single newspaper in there. I think with a little extra work this could be a GA-candidate. Lampman (talk) 20:08, 22 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

There are lots of Norwegian quotations in the article. Ideally, when a direct quote is translated by the editor, the original quote should be supplied. Decltype (talk) 18:48, 31 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Removal of historical accuracy part

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Unfortunately the article has descended into an unappealing collection of trivia. Those who think this is what a film article should look like ought to read the guidelines about historical accuracies. If anybody wants to reinsert an edited version of parts of the information – supported by secondary sources – the text is below. Lampman (talk) 03:24, 8 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Historical accuracy

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Adaption adjustments

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To fit the war experiences into a movie, and for dramatic effect, some adjustments were made by the writers.[1]

Omissions and abbreviations

  • Immediately when returning from Finland in the early days of the invasion of Norway, and when domestic Norwegian forces were still fighting, Manus and Lauring took part in the battles around Kongsvinger. Manus was promoted based on these battles, and Lauring was captured by the Germans and released after a short while. The movie does not portray these events, only refererring to them in dialogue with Captain Linge.
  • The books by Max Manus include much about his journey from Oslo to Scotland; this seven month journey went through the Soviet Union, across the Mediterranean amid an aerial attack, around Africa, to Canada, and finally to England and Scotland. In the movie, nothing of this journey is shown, and the only reference made to it is when Linge asks how Max's journey was; Max replies "long".
  • As well as the limpet mine operations shown in the film, Max Manus's group tried to construct a lightweight torpedo. These experiments took much time and energy, but failed to deliver results. In the film, one of these torpedoes is shown sitting on the table in the cover basement, but the film doesn't show any of the experiments.
  • The conversation between Fehmer and Manus after Fehmer had been arrested was in reality a much longer one. They talked about how they each had worked to foil the other during the war, and they discovered that there had been several close calls. Manus recalled that they had spoken in a professional and almost friendly tone. The film cuts this down to a short conversation and a handshake.

Changes

  • Although Max Manus's unit did take part in fighting in Finland, Manus refused to speak about those events, suffered nightmares about them, and did not write about them in detail. Other sources describe an assault where Soviet forces sustained heavy losses, and volunteers in Manus's unit were also killed, but Manus did not write whether he killed anyone himself. The scene where Manus chases down and kills a Soviet soldier is thus a fictionalized event representing the horrors which Manus experienced.
  • The film shows Jens Christian Hauge being involved in a leadership role in the Norwegian resistance earlier than he really was. Hauge took over when people involved earlier were caught or had to flee from the Gestapo. Hauge and Manus did not meet until later.
  • Captain Linge and Max Manus are shown first meeting at Forest Lodge. In reality, they had met in London.
  • In the movie, Max and Gregers are decorated with a medal at Forest Lodge. In reality, the medals were presented in Nethy Bridge, with the heavy water saboteurs also present.
  • In Operation Mardonius, the first limpet mine operation shown in the film, Einar Riis and Halvor Haddeland were really with Max and Gregers in the canoes. The film shows Edvard Tallaksen and Lars Emil Erichsen instead.
  • In the operation against SS Donau, the film shows Kolbein Lauring instead of Kåre Halvorsen.
  • The materials for the SS Donau operation were smuggled into the docks while Donau was en route - they were not carried openly in by the saboteurs on the same day. It is, however, correct that one of the saboteurs slipped and fell right outside the gate. This was a deliberate action, performed with the intent of causing the Germans to start laughing and not check their papers.
  • The movie shows Lauring running into Fehmer immediately after setting the mines on SS Donau. This meeting is fictional, but in reality Fehmer did come dangerously close to catching Manus several times.
  • Solveig, Fehmer's girlfriend, is a composite character; the writers did not want to call unwanted attention to any particular woman.
  • In the movie, Manus is informed of Gregers Gram's death in person by Tikken. In reality he was informed by phone while he was on his way back to Norway.
  • The movie shows three resistance members getting shot to death during the record burning operation at Kirkeveien 90. In reality, these men were captured and executed.
  • Directly after the peace, Max Manus was busy keeping law and order together with the other Norwegian soldiers. The scene where he locks himself in his apartment for days, to get drunk and cry happened much later in his life.

References

  1. ^ "Max Manus Film og virkelighet". Fakta på Lørdag. NRK. 2008-12-20.

Final Title Cards at the End of the Movie

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Hi. I was watching Max Manus: Man of War (brilliant movie, by the way) and when it came to the end title cards, I was wondering what they say. I only know a handful of basic Norwegian, Danish, and German words but I lost my glasses, see, and I was unable to read most of the words clearly w/o pressing my face to my television set. Can anyone please help? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.217.32.39 (talk) 20:47, 20 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

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I recently came over a new article concerning the copuright infringement of the film during it's cinema run.

Link: http://www.adressa.no/kultur/film/article1440244.ece

Would this be an apropriate addition to the article? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Hkkr319 (talk • contribs) 13:45, 5 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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