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Section on construction and christening?

I'm interested in addition a section on the ship's construction (origin, build purpose, etymology, etc). There may be very little information... but if there are some reference suggestions, please post the ideas here. Thanks! StevePrutz (talk) 14:36, 26 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
- Findings so far: https://www.google.com/books/edition/Mayflower/qk9AXww_XysC?hl=en&gbpv=1&dq=norway&pg=PA24&printsec=frontcover (Mayflower: A Story of Courage, Community, and War):
  - pp 24: "The Mayflower was a typical merchant vessel of her day: square-rigged and beak bowed, with high, castlelike superstructures fore and aft that protected her cargo and crew in the worst weather, but made beating against the wind a painfully inefficient endeavor. Rated at 180 tons...she was approximately three times the size of the Speedwell and about one hundred feet in length."
  - "The Mayflower's commanding officer, known as the master, was Christopher Jones. About fifty years old, he was also part owner of the ship. Records indicate that Jones had been master of the Mayflower for the last eleven years [1620 - 11 = 1609], sailing back and forth across the [English Channel] with English woolens to France and returning to London with French wine. Wine ships such as the Mayflower were known as "sweet ships", since the inevitable spillage of the acidic wine helped to temper the stench of the bilge. In addition to wine and wool, Jones had transported hats, hemp, Spanish salt, hops, and vinegar to Norway and may have even taken the Mayflower on a whaling voyage to Greenland." StevePrutz (talk) 18:38, 26 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Incorrect date listed

"During the winter, the passengers remained on board Mayflower, suffering an outbreak of a contagious disease described as a mixture of scurvy, pneumonia, and tuberculosis. After it was over, only 53 passengers remained—just over half; half of the crew died as well. In the spring, they built huts ashore, and the passengers disembarked from Mayflower on March 31, 1621 [O.S. March 21, 1620]."

Here it obviously should be March 21, 1621 instead of 1620. There's a discrepancy of 10 days between Julian and Gregorian Calendars so that would make actual sense as opposed to more than a year. 68.185.215.102 (talk) 21:21, 5 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Change: In the spring, they built huts ashore, and the passengers disembarked from Mayflower on March 31, 1621 [O.S. March 21, 1620].

To: In the spring, they built huts ashore, and the passengers disembarked from Mayflower on March 31, 1621 [O.S. March 21, 1621].

This fixes the date mistake of 1620 instead of 1621 being entered in the O.S. 2601:249:4201:2890:91FA:D813:D12F:5B5B (talk) 06:16, 18 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Done CloakedFerret (talk) 01:29, 19 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Info Box flag

What's with the anachronistic flag in the Info Box? It was adopted following the first BRITISH Act of Union in 1707, nearly a century after the ENGLISH Pilgrims travelled to the New World. Britain and England are not synonyms. Prior to 1707, England had a different flag. 2A0A:EF40:387:5F01:FD85:6D1:7347:48F5 (talk) 23:47, 7 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

In fact, the flag was designed in 1606 (see the Flag of Great Britain article), and yes - it was used on the Mayflower. St Anselm (talk) 00:06, 8 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]