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Doctored photo incorrectly used

The main image used for this article has been doctored, with another person's face photoshopped on top. It is not the same as the cited source.

I've taken the liberty of uploading the actual, real, unaltered photo (I've supplied a link to the digital version & page number of the source for ease): https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:A_Mongolian_lady_sits_for_her_portrait_before_a_Chinese_photographer.png

Could someone please replace the image in this article with the correct one? It's really bothering me that this has been accepted. Thanks. Exousies (talk) 04:05, 14 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I will also advocate the replacement using the original rather than a doctored image. However someone has decided to replace the Mongolian lady entirely with the Genghis Khan... A change I entirely do not agree with. This is an article about a peoples, and I feel such articles should reflect that rather than perhaps their most famous member. CosmologicalDefect (talk) 00:05, 24 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

To add, the user who made the change has been indefinitely blocked for disruptive editing, so it clearly should be changed back. CosmologicalDefect (talk) 00:13, 24 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I've made the change. Remsense聊 00:31, 25 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you Remsense! This saga with the portrait of "Genepil" has been a bit of an obsession of mine since I discovered this article using the image but with the incorrect attribution in 2022. I was a bit dismayed when I saw it had been removed. Cheers. CosmologicalDefect (talk) 08:58, 25 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

CosmologicalDefect, oh goodness, I'm glad I could help! I hope the crop is okay also, I wanted to make sure it was the best profile possible in line with other such images. If you ever have any other bugbears in this vein, don't hesitate to bring it up to me on my talk page or what have you! :) — Remsense聊 09:00, 25 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

The crop looks good and matches the style I see for other photos used on cultural or ethnicity pages. If anyone is curious, they can easily find the uncropped original with the tea saucer by clicking so all is good. CosmologicalDefect (talk) 09:07, 25 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

CosmologicalDefect, Indeed! The CropTool feature Wikimedia has is nifty like that, and it's a gorgeous photo. — Remsense聊 09:10, 25 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Language

While Mongolian was the governing elite's language, the Chinese language was nevertheless used for official reasons during the Yuan Dynasty. The Mongols also used the Uighur script for administrative and official documents. — Preceding unsigned comment added by PhilipGiwa1416 (talk • contribs) 07:11, 19 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Mongolia is not part of China. Please remove word china! 210.84.37.200 (talk) 23:42, 3 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. ~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 23:46, 3 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Main picture captioned incorrectly

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Apparently, there is no evidence that the photo depicts queen Genepil.^[1] If you want to keep it, change the caption from "Genepil, the last queen of Mongolia, seated for a portrait in 1921" to "Mongolian noblewoman, seated for a portrait in 1921" or something similar. Asdjalghasd (talk) 15:55, 20 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Done courtesy ping to Losslesskld. ~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 18:31, 20 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

References

^ Sood, Amy (18 February 2022). "This photo was taken from a movie scene depicting the Mongolian queen's execution". AFP. "Portrait picture"

Mongols

What is a mongol 151.51.207.166 (talk) 13:30, 29 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

You can read the article Mongols. ~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 13:32, 29 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

[1] Sood, Amy (18 February 2022). "This photo was taken from a movie scene depicting the Mongolian queen's execution". AFP. "Portrait picture"

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