Talk:Mount Rainier National Park

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Fifth oldest?

How is Mount Rainier the fifth-oldest park? - Talk to you later, Presidentman (talk) Random Picture of the Day 20:24, 17 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

In general, the history section requires expansion, including a discussion of how Mount Rainier became a National Park and the political fight surrounding that move. Racepacket (talk) 12:36, 24 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I just added a subsection about the creation of the park, although not with much about the political fight--just a bit of general context. One thing I couldn't quite figure out was whether Muir's 1888 ascent was the 5th or 6th on record. The National Parks book says it was the 6th, but most of the climbing chronology websites seem to list it as the 5th. It's apparently not clear whether the summit was reached on a few early attempts. Fred Beckey merely says that the 1888 climb was "the fourth ascent of the Gibraltar route", which doesn't exactly resolve it. Pfly (talk) 08:31, 25 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I think stating Rainier as the 5th National Park is a bit misleading. Yellowstone was the 1st in 1872, but then Mackinac National Park was created in 1875, two years later, General Grant, Sequoia, and Yosemite were all created at the same time in 1890, but then Mackinac was returned to the state of Michigan in 1895, so for five years there were actually five National Parks. When Rainier was added in 1899, the number came back to five parks, but I wouldn't say it was the fifth park, it was the sixth. You can find this information on the NPS site, as well as Wikipedias own List of of areas in the NPS system.— Preceding unsigned comment added by 96.37.74.194 (talk • contribs) 00:36, 2014 November 22‎

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Thank you Walter. I had an account years ago, but the passwords been lost and is apparently not recoverable. I found that when I made changes, even small ones and cited the reasons, there were people that seem invested in the way it was written and would reverse them. Thus, I choose to make suggestions on the talk page, and if an editor would like to incorporate my suggestions they are welcome to... or not to as they please. In this case, I can say that Mount Rainier National Park was actually the 6th national park created by an act of congress. Since Mackinac National Park had been disbanded at the time of its creation, you could say it was the 5th of the five parks designated at the time. I don't think it would be right to call it the 5th oldest either, since technically General Grant was re-designated as part of Kings Canyon National Park, and ceased to exist as a park in its own right at that time. Based on that, one could say its actually the 4th oldest park, after Yellowstone, Yosemite and Sequoia National Parks.

Mountain guide services

@SounderBruce:, instead of "There are three companies that are authorized to operate mountain guide services in the national park; initially RMI Expeditions was the only one at Mount Rainier.", what if we say "RMI Expeditions was the only company authorized to provide mountain guide services in the national park for more than thirty years. (insert bbc ref) As of 2024, three companies provide guide services, and fifteen mountain guide services are authorized one trip per year."[1] When I read the "three" in the recent edit but only one was named, it made me curious who the others were. The NPS site names them, but it might seem a bit promotional to name them in the article (while RMI's 30 years is significant enough for a mention), but the 15 solo-trips seems worth mentioning. It'd be nice to find a source that discussed why the NPS went from only one company to opening the field so much to others, wouldn't it? Schazjmd (talk) 23:52, 27 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Schazjmd: Went ahead and added that information, as well as what I could glean from an older newspaper source from when climbing was opened to other companies. Someday I'll have to split off the activities from the attractions/areas in a future expansion. Sounder Bruce 02:30, 28 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]