Talk:Sandaime J Soul Brothers

Sandaime J Soul Brothers was nominated as a Music good article, but it did not meet the good article criteria at the time (June 11, 2020). There are suggestions on the review page for improving the article. If you can improve it, please do; it may then be renominated.

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Merger proposal

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Merge Proposal and / or Redirect. Please do not modify it.
The result of the request for the Proposed Merger of {requested article} into this talk page's article was:

.Consensus Reached–Awaiting Merge.
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Formal request has been received to merge: J Soul Brothers into Sandaime J Soul Brothers; dated: January 2, 2020. Proposer's Rationale: The [second] article is about the third generation of the group J Soul Brothers. The [first] article which is about the original J Soul Brothers is very brief, contains info about the second generation but lacks all the info about its current generation. The merge would also follow suit with the original article in the Japanese Wikipedia. Either merge Sandaime J Soul Brothers into J Soul Brothers, or delete J Soul Brothers and move all its info to the article of the third generation in the history section. I am considering both mergers because the article that was created first was Sandaime J Soul Brothers. Takacchin10_10. Discuss below. GenQuest ^{"Talk to Me"} 05:35, 3 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

~~Oppose:~~ Neutral: Although I understand the sentiment, and would agree with a merge under differing circumstances, the Sandaime article is already pushing 90K text size (that's splitting—not merging—territory) and probably shouldn't be merged with anything unless a re-write could possibly reduce its current size. GenQuest ^{"Talk to Me"} 07:35, 3 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I think a slight rewrite along with a separate article for their discography (which takes a lot of space on this page) can reduce the size of the article just enough for this to be viable. Any thoughts on the proposal to delete the J Soul Brothers article? Ideally, I think some info of that article could be included on the history section of this one. Overall I just think it is unnecesary to have two articles of what is essentially the same group. Takacchin10_10 (talk) 14:57, 3 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

If you could do a re-write and work it all into the "History" sub-section, I have no objection to a merge. Wouldn't want to outright delete the thing though. Striking my Oppose. Good luck. GenQuest ^{"Talk to Me"} 13:53, 5 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Support: For the reasons I stated above I would support and proceed to merge said articles, making a re-write to the "History" section to include everything that is necessary from the second article into the main one. I also intend to make a separate page for the whole discography of the J Soul Brothers, while I do that I'll wait for some time to see if anyone opposes before I make a bold move. Thank you. Takacchin10_10 (talk) 16:30, 5 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Supportper nom. ~ HAL 333 02:02, 15 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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GA Review

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Reviewer: Aircorn (talk · contribs) 04:26, 3 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Nothing done about sourcing so failing. AIRcorn (talk) 07:35, 11 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I see a merge has just been done. Is it completed or are there likely to be further work in this regard. AIRcorn (talk) 04:27, 3 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]
I also see on the talk that there is talk of splitting out the discography section. I would support such a move as the entire bottom half consists of tables with little prose. AIRcorn (talk) 04:31, 3 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Review

Is there a reason we don't use Hiros full name. It starts off quiet informally.
The origins doesn't really introduce the group. It says "they released ...", but apart from Hiro we don't know who they are, where the other members came from or their role in the group. The second generation section gives a much better intro to the band.
I am seeing a critical lack of sources in the history section. That needs to be remedied before I can continue the review. AIRcorn (talk) 04:40, 3 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]