Talk:SoFi Stadium

Retractable Roof

In the opening sentence it says its retractible. I can't find the source about this stadium being retractible? Last I read its a ETFE roof. found here lased.com stadium website --Redspork02 (talk) 05:40, 23 March 2018 (UTC)

Title is incorrect

The current title, City of Champions Stadium, is incorrect. The two names in play are:

• City of Champions Revitilization Initiative (general project)
• Los Angeles Entertainment Center (stadium itself)

This article should be titled as one of those! 98.247.93.88 (talk) 06:58, 5 January 2016 (UTC)

Probably a silly question

In the History section, what are "standing room-only seats"? Peridon (talk) 19:13, 27 January 2017 (UTC)

Not a silly question!

The capacity of any stadium, theatre or other large venue is traditionally counted by how many people it will "seat" but this doesn't necessarily mean that the total number equates to the actual amount of seats there are, but how many individuals can be accommodated therein. 90.249.133.97 (talk) 08:01, 19 November 2021 (UTC)

2028 Olympics

Feel free to discuss the stadium's role in the 2028 Olympics here. It seems there has been some confusion and misunderstanding about certain aspect of this. Feel free to discuss.

Cordially, --WRCosA (talk) 22:43, 3 August 2017 (UTC)

Stadium name

Is Los Angeles Stadium at Hollywood Park the official name of the stadium or is that just being used during construction? -NetWitz- 21:56, 7 September 2017 (UTC)NetWitz

It's the working name for the stadium (see http://www.lased.com/). The full project is the "The Los Angeles Stadium and Entertainment District at Hollywood Park". In the near future, the stadium will likely get a formal name (very likely before it's totally finished), at which point the article title will be updated accordingly. --JonRidinger (talk) 00:33, 8 September 2017 (UTC)

Am I wrong to think the that, because the article stadium itself and not Hollywood park, that the name of the article should be Los Angles Stadium? -NetWitz- 00:35, 8 September 2017 (UTC)NetWitz

Article name depends on sources. Los Angeles Stadium is currently a disambiguation page to this article, and three subheadings within Proposed Los Angeles NFL stadiums. The sources I've seen don't consistently refer to the stadium by any specific name, though Hollywood Park seems to be used fairly consistently, along with Inglewood. I think since the current article name here is clearly a working name and this article doesn't have a clear case of WP:COMMONNAME or WP:PRIMARYTOPIC for "Los Angeles Stadium", leaving it where it is now seems like the best option. If the stadium would be formally named "Los Angeles Stadium", then yes, a case for WP:PRIMARYTOPIC could be made. --JonRidinger (talk) 00:55, 8 September 2017 (UTC)

Stadiums with Multiple Teams from the Same League

Strictly speaking, SoFi Stadium will be the fifth stadium to host multiple teams from the same league. The Los Angeles Angels of the Pacific Coast League were the prime tenants of Wrigley Field (Los Angeles) but for several years in the 1920 and 1930s, they shared their park with the crosstown rivals, the Hollywood Stars. In all fairness, however, the PCL was a minor league and this happened a long time ago. Timothy Horrigan (talk) 17:56, 30 April 2020 (UTC)

acronym

I can't find anything in the article relating to the meaning of the acronym SoFi. 90.249.133.97 (talk) 08:02, 19 November 2021 (UTC)

It stands for Social Finance, Inc. I added the full name of the company to the article and another source talking about the deal, both taken from the SoFi page. Joe (talk) 05:54, 30 November 2021 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 31 January 2022

The San Francisco 49ers do not play in this stadium. They are mistakenly stated to in the “Tenants” section. They should be replaced by the “Los Angeles Rams” in this section. 104.142.127.226 (talk) 02:20, 31 January 2022 (UTC)

 Done Thank you, - FlightTime (open channel) 02:24, 31 January 2022 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 31 January 2022 (2)

The 49ers don’t play in SoFi. The two NFL tenants should be the Rams and the Chargers. 174.92.61.194 (talk) 02:30, 31 January 2022 (UTC)

 Already done PianoDan (talk) 19:10, 1 February 2022 (UTC)

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user @Magnolia677 removing concerts

This page talks about many future events including events scheduled in 2026, 2028, 2031 and 2033 see WP:NCONCERT WP:NTOUR Artedm (talk) 00:45, 22 February 2023 (UTC)

@Artedm: The policy WP:NCONCERT discusses the notability of concert tours, and Renaissance World Tour--one of the concert tours you added to this article--is indeed notable. What I am disputing is whether each individual stop on the tour should be mentioned--in advance of the concert actually happening--on other Wikipedia articles. WP:PROMOTION discusses not using Wikipedia for advertising, and there seems to be no reason other than advertising for adding--to this article--information about a concert taking place here six months in the future. Moreover, WP:CRYSTAL states, "Individual scheduled or expected future events should be included only if the event is notable and almost certain to take place." Again, the concert tour is notable; what I am disputing is whether each stop on the tour is notable--on each stadium's article--six months before the concert actually happens. Each stop on the tour is not the 2028 Summer Olympics. What is the encyclopedic value? Magnolia677 (talk) 09:52, 23 March 2023 (UTC)

Magnolia677 removed all of the upcoming concerts from Beyoncé's Renaissance World Tour article with the edit summary "Per WP:NOTPROMO and WP:CRYSTAL. The concert tour is notable, but each individual show--which have not even occurred yet--are not notable."[1] The concerts, scheduled for May through September, were announced in Variety and USA Today, both of which are considered reliable sources, are used as references. They were in turn reverted by Livelikemusic, with the edit summary "Each date is reliably sourced; mass-removal must also be discussed. Please take to talk page before targeting this singular page again."[2]

A discussion of the issue was started at Talk:Renaissance World Tour, but Magnolia has chosen to pursue the issue here instead ("What I am disputing is whether each individual stop on the tour should be mentioned--in advance of the concert actually happening--on other Wikipedia articles [bold added]") rather than the tour talk page. That talk page includes:[3]

It's been a week and the editors who cited WP:CRYSTAL have not provided any further explanation. What they didn't include in their quotes from that policy is the wording that specifically allows for future events: "A schedule of future events may be appropriate if it can be verified. As an exception, even highly speculative articles about events that may or may not occur far in the future might be appropriate, where coverage in reliable sources is sufficient." In this case, a concert tour by a major artist that is scheduled to begin in two months with reports in multiple reliable sources should meet the requirements.

They also cite WP:PROMOTION, which includes "Information about companies and products must be written in an objective and unbiased style, free of puffery. All article topics must be verifiable with independent, third-party sources." In this case, the Renaissance tour article uses "independent, third party sources" for the scheduled dates, so it does not run afoul of WP:NOTPROMO.

The upcoming tour schedule has received coverage in multiple reliable sources – it's newsworthy and not "just advertising". Again from WP:CRYSTAL, "All articles about anticipated events must be verifiable, and the subject matter must be of sufficiently wide interest that it would merit an article if the event had already occurred." Beyoncé is a major artist and details about her first tour in five years, properly referenced, is appropriate for the tour article. FWIW, I think there is far too much detail in SoFi Stadium#Concerts table for all the tour entries: openings acts, tickets sold, gross revenue, etc., is way off topic and takes up far too much space for an article that is supposed to be about SoFi Stadium. But that doesn't seem to be the issue here.

—Ojorojo (talk) 16:44, 23 March 2023 (UTC)

@Ojorojo: You are correct that many of these concert tours are notable, and have Wikipedia articles written about them. However, each stop on the tour is not notable. Likewise, Best Western is a notable hotel company, and it would be reasonable to list all future hotel locations on the Best Western article. But it would be promotional and WP:CRYSTAL to add this information to an article about a city where they planned to build a hotel in the future. In other words, it is appropriate to list all future concert locations on the concert tour article, but adding this information to each stadium on the tour--in advance--is the promotion of a non-notable future event. Magnolia677 (talk) 10:56, 27 March 2023 (UTC)

My issues are the excessive amount of details about every concert and these tables, which are inappropriate. Sourced future concerts should be mentioned in article text, not a table, and it should be clear that it is a planned stop on the tour. That shouldn't be more than 2 sentences, if that. This is an article about the given stadium, not every event ever held there. These kinds of concert details belong on the page about the given tour. Interestingly enough, so many stadium articles have detailed tables for concerts and other events (like international soccer matches) but talk very little about the building's primary tenants, in this case the Rams and Chargers; certainly not detailing every home game. Of course we realize that listing every Rams and Chargers home game and then details about each would quickly overwhelm the article. Likewise, concerts and other major events should be summarized in an appropriate section of the article, not given detailed tables. --JonRidinger (talk) 14:50, 27 March 2023 (UTC)

Exactly. The ideas of due weight and balance should apply. The tour tables in some venue articles are quite large and place too much emphasis on concert details. Concert sections could be reduced to a paragraph, with an overview of the concerts that have received the most attention in reliable sources. While this does not exclude future events, the bar should be fairly high (actually written about in multiple RS) to include them in venue articles. Magnolia677 keeps citing CRYSTAL and PROMO, although they clearly allow for future events if there is suitable coverage in independent reliable third party sources (also, "The notability guideline does not apply to the contents of articles", see WP:NOTEWORTHY).—Ojorojo (talk) 17:15, 28 March 2023 (UTC)

Having a concert listed is not advertising. The links on the tour page link to the venue. Wikipedia is about knowledge not removing knowledge. Artedm (talk) 21:41, 28 March 2023 (UTC)

The two principal tenant's the LA Rams and LA Chargers might play 10 games each in the stadium each year for over 30+ years but concerts are a more rare and unique situation. Artedm (talk) 21:46, 28 March 2023 (UTC)

That's a matter of opinion as to what's more "rare" and "unique". Yes, Wikipedia is about knowledge but also isn't about everything and, as I said, this article is about the stadium, not details of every event ever held here. We don't document every Rams or Chargers game (even playoff games) in the stadium articles for many good reasons. Game summaries and details for each team belong in the articles for the respective season, just like we do for specific concert tours. Seasons and important games can and are mentioned in the stadium article, though, but generally not in large tables. There is no reason this can't be the case for concerts. This can easily be summarized in paragraph form with the basics of what concert was held, when, possibly the attendance, and any other potential information that may be of note (like if something unusual happened). Again, I don't have issue briefly mentioning planned concerts that are sourced, but the mention should be brief and worded to clearly indicate its planned or scheduled, rather than "will be held..." --JonRidinger (talk) 15:47, 29 March 2023 (UTC)