Talk:Teen Week

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Review: April 9, 2025. (Reviewed version).

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deadair rerelease

the wikipedia article says the abridged version was released by deadair but the abridged version was originally self released until 2024 when it got rereleased by deadair Sastofficial (talk) 13:55, 26 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

You're right, I forgot that they self-released it first.

Fixed Locust member (talk) 15:47, 1 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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... ~~that Jane Remover's school counselor made sure they felt okay after their classmate wrote an essay about lyrics from Teen Week?~~

Source: Pitchfork

Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Tao Asian Bistro

Improved to Good Article status by Locust member (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 8 past nominations.

Locust member (talk) 01:27, 13 April 2025 (UTC).[reply]

Reviewing... Flibirigit (talk) 02:05, 19 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

General: Article is new enough and long enough
New enough: Long enough:

Policy compliance:

Adequate sourcing: - ?
Neutral:
Free of copyright violations, plagiarism, and close paraphrasing: - ?

Hook eligibility:

Cited: - ?
Interesting:

QPQ: Done.

Overall: The article achieved GA status on April 9, and was nominated for DYK four days later. Length is adequate, and the article is neutral in tone. There are multiple quotations used without a citation directly at the end of the sentence. Cites are needed as per WP:DYKCRIT. Once the sourcing is improved, I will revaluate for plagiarism. The hook is confusing as to who "they" refers. "They" could be Remover, the counselor, or the person who wrote the essay. I suggest rewording to avoid pronouns, since gender fluidity is not apparent in a hook. The corresponding text in the article to support the hook is uncited, as per WP:DYKHFC. The QPQ requirement is complete. Overall, the article is in decent condition, but needs work to adhere to DYK criteria which differ from GA criteria. Best wishes. Flibirigit (talk) 02:23, 19 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for the review! My wiki-friend Chchcheckit fixed the citation problems in the article. I understand the need to put them at the end of each sentence for DYK reasons but I just want to clarify that no content in the article was actually uncited, I was following WP:REPCITE. Regardless, all issues should be fixed as I also changed the hook to not include pronouns. Locust member (talk) 21:53, 19 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

When proposing a new hook, please start a new line and a new ALT number (see below), instead of overwriting the previous hook. It is essential for other reviewers to follow the conversation. I have fixed this for you, and will continue the review shortly. Flibirigit (talk) 22:00, 19 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

- ALT1: ... that Jane Remover's school counselor made sure Remover felt okay after a classmate wrote an essay about lyrics from Teen Week? https://pitchfork.com/features/rising/dltzk-interview/

The article's sourcing now complies with WP:DYKCRIT. I found no plagiarism concerns, since each quote is now properly attributed and cited. I have struck ALT0 as per my previous comments. The revised hook ALT1 is an improvement, and is now properly cited. The only remaining concern is that the interview reviews to the artist as "Zeke", where "dltzk" = "delete zeke". For the sake of anyone who has to check this review, a footnote is needed to explain that Remover was also known as Zeke/dltzk. The citation for this hook could also go inside of the footnote. Please see WP:FOOTNOTE for guidance, or ask any questions here. Best wishes. Flibirigit (talk) 23:07, 19 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

This is already in the article: The EP was self-released on February 26, 2021, under their former name Dltzk, before they came out as a trans woman in 2022. Is a footnote after the DYK hook really necessary? It is already stated in the article twice (lead and body) and I believe an admin can look at both Remover's page and the Teen Week page and see they went by a different name. I also don't think it should be mentioned in the article a third time considering that's a deadname. Locust member (talk) 23:20, 19 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I requested the footnote to make it easier to verify for those who review this. In other words, putting all necessary information in the same place makes it easier to see, and the the nomination will be less likely to be challenged. I do not see anywhere in Teen Week where "Zeke" is mentioned. Please note that DYK has some peculiarities different from GA status. Once the article has been on the main page, these DYK fixes could be removed. Flibirigit (talk) 23:44, 19 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

"Zeke" is not mentioned in the article per WP:DEADNAME and the fact it's just a different version of Dltzk. Again, I don't think this footnote is necessary but I'll put it in for now so this can be passed. Locust member (talk) 00:19, 20 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Approving ALT1. I hope the footnote is sufficient to explain the difference in name used in the source compared to the article, and that this does not get challenged. Best wishes. Flibirigit (talk) 01:06, 20 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]