Talk:Terence O'Neill

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Requested move 11 July 2017

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The result of the move request was: page moved. Andrewa (talk) 05:31, 18 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Terence O'Neill, Baron O'Neill of the Maine → Terence O'Neill – per WP:COMMONNAME and per WP:NCPEER "Peers who are almost exclusively known by their personal names".
O'Neill is known overwhelmingly for his political career as a member of the House of Commons of Northern Ireland 1946–70, and especially for his six years as Prime Minister of Northern Ireland 1963–69. Throughout that period he was known solely as "Terence O'Neill". He received his peerage only in retirement, and was not prominent in the House of Lords; his obituary in The Times newspaper (subscription required) runs to 1734 words, of which only 32 words in the penultimate para refer to his time as a Lord .
Terence O'Neill redirects to the current title, so there is no ambiguity. --BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 03:19, 11 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Evidence of usage (using Gbooks, since it concentrates reliable sources):
1. "Lord O'Neill of the Maine" — ~ 30 hits
2. "Terence O'Neill, Baron O'Neill" — ~ 12 hits
3. "Terence O'Neill" "prime minister" -"Baron O'Neill" ~100 hits

Note that the last search massively under-estimates usage of the bare name, because it excludes any usage which mentions his title even in parentheses. --BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 03:27, 11 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Support per nominator's well-researched and well-reasoned rationale. There is no need to include any material beyond the subject's common name as used throughout his most substantial periods of notability. bd2412 T 03:00, 18 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Closing comment: I note this completes a cycle of moves starting 17:58, 6 November 2008‎ Chromenano (talk | contribs | block)‎ . . (57 bytes) (+57)‎ . . (moved Terence O'Neill to Terence O'Neill, Baron O'Neill of the Maine over redirect: name) and moving through at least one other name. All previous moves appear undiscussed, there isn't even a rationale in the move summary. Andrewa (talk) 05:28, 18 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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Factual errors

I've spotted two so far:

a) in the lead, "he was Member of the Parliament of Northern Ireland for the Bannside constituency from 1946 until his forced resignation in April 1969 as communal conflict erupted." O'Neill did not resign from the House of Commons of Northern Ireland in April 1969.

b) in the infobox, "Member of the Northern Ireland Parliament for Bannside In office 7 November 1946 – 16 April 1970". This can't be the case if, as stated later on, O'Neill was awarded a peerage in January 1970.

I've made an edit to correct the first of these. Perhaps some kind person could check the second for exact dates and then edit as necessary? Harfarhs (talk) 17:42, 11 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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