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On 25 January 2025, it was proposed that this article be moved from Timeline of the Donald Trump presidency (2025 Q1) to Timeline of Donald Trump's second presidency (2025 Q1). The result of the discussion was moved.

Requested move 25 January 2025

The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

The result of the move request was: moved. There appears to be consensus towards Timeline of the second Donald Trump presidency (2025 Q1). Thank you everyone for your input. Dr vulpes (Talk) 07:52, 2 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Timeline of the Donald Trump presidency (2025 Q1) → Timeline of Donald Trump's second presidency (2025 Q1) – "the Donald Trump presidency" implies a singular presidency, even though this is his second. Another solution is "Timeline of the second Trump presidency (2025 Q1)". EatingCarBatteries _{(contributions, talk)} 06:49, 25 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@EatingCarBatteries: Technically if thats the case, then we should move Timeline of the Barack Obama presidency, Timeline of the George W. Bush presidency, etc. I don't think it's any different logically just because it's not contiguous – Kjerish (talk) 07:33, 25 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

What about, Timeline of the Donald Trump presidencies? 3df (talk) 18:10, 25 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@3df: I think this is a better solution. If Trump has a third term (lol) then it wouldn't have to be changed every time. To be clear though I would rather just use the format that all presidencies have had up until this point. Even though perhaps less technically correct due to the implication of a single presidency, it's simpler. – Kjerish (talk) 18:41, 25 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

If it shall be moved, it ought to be moved to Timeline of the second Donald Trump presidency (2025 Q1) instead. – MrPersonHumanGuy (talk) 01:35, 27 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Support:

There isn't much of a precedent on Wikipedia for something like this, considering two non-consecutive terms is a rarity and has only happened twice (once if we don't include Trump): but there is something.

When referring to presidents with two nonconsecutive terms, the two presidencies are not labeled as 'one', but instead two distinct and separate 'eras', if we may. This can be seen in Presidency of Lula da Silva, Presidencies of Alfonso López Pumarejo, and Presidencies of Grover Cleveland.

To @Kjerish, your logic isn't necessarily well-founded here. Whether a president's terms are contiguous or not does as a matter of fact make a difference. When Obama won his second term in 2012, while still being president, and was inaugurated again, as president: did that make his second term a 'second presidency'? No, because the emphasis is on continuity. Obama's second term was a direct continuation of his first.

It's more complicated than that; but basically, yes- Trump has two distinct presidencies, and thus I support moving it to Timeline of the second Donald Trump presidency (2025 Q1). TheodoresTomfooleries (talk) 00:41, 28 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Support I agree with your arguments and I like your conviction. And I think User:MrPersonHumanGuy's format Timeline of the second Donald Trump presidency (2025 Q1) is best – Kjerish (talk) 04:00, 28 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

Can we agree that all entries should be in the simple past tense?

It's "President Trump signed... " not "President Trump signs..." Pikiwediaesq (talk) 21:40, 2 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Biden's security clearance

According to this NPR article, Biden, like other presidents before him, did not have a security clearance in the usual sense, and Trump didn't revoke his clearance so much as ending the courtesy afforded former presidents of being briefed on intelligence matters. I'm not an expert, but I feel that if true this should be reflected in the wording used in this entry. 2003:D5:AF4A:DC00:7C78:59AE:CBB1:9F2D (talk) 21:18, 9 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Im new and need help editing

On the source for the secound bullet point for Febuary 10th (source 160), there is a ":3" following the source. Im not sure if this is on purpose but I also don't know how to remove it. SpooklesMan (talk) 20:33, 12 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@SpooklesMan You can press the "edit" button at the top right of your screen, and there is a little pencil icon you can use to switch to visual editor, which is a little more user friendly. Sophisticatedevening ^(talk) 20:36, 12 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Ok, I'll try it out. Thank you for helping me. SpooklesMan (talk) 21:00, 12 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

No problem. Sophisticatedevening ^(talk) 21:01, 12 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Bounding the daily events to be included

It's unclear to me how people are determining which daily events should/shouldn't be included here. Is the assumption that editors will simply add whatever they think noteworthy, and leave it to others to remove it if they don't think it's sufficiently noteworthy or condense it if it goes into too much detail? FactOrOpinion (talk) 23:58, 14 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Please include times when President Trump was playing golf, and where. During the work week at minimum. 2600:4041:5EDA:6600:4B71:4655:E7FB:2DFC (talk) 12:52, 27 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

If you want that information added, the way to propose it is via edit requests, where you give the precise wording of the text you want added along with a source for that information. However, I suspect that the response will be that that information is not WP:DUE in this article. FactOrOpinion (talk) 13:04, 27 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I don't believe that's widely reported. Him playing golf is certainly relevant in some instances, but it isn't necessarily notable every single time and place he plays golf. A timeline should be summary-style, shouldn't it? 1101 (talk) 01:17, 1 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I think I would look to the best sources, such as the BBC, Reuters, Associated Press, New York Times, and Washington Post. If the information is reported in a top source, in multiple sources, and/or in a headline, I would think it is notable enough to add. You can kind of tell how important it is based on how widely reported it is, how deep in the article it's buried vs if it's in the lead, the reputation of the news organization publishing it, and whether the journalist reporting it is famous enough to have her own Wikipedia article. 1101 (talk) 01:16, 1 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Federal workers return to office:

President Trump has described his new in-office requirement as a way to ensure workers are doing their jobs. He sees potentially leading more employees to quit as an added benefit.
— Eileen Sullivan, "No Toilet Paper and No Privacy: Returning to the Office, Federal Workers Walk Into Chaos", The New York Times (March 31, 2025)

Given that this is currently the top story in the NYTimes website, I thought it might be appropriate to add some information from it to this article. But I was thinking it might be appropriate to ask others where you think the most appropriate place for this information is. Is it this article, and, if so, where? It isn't an opinion article, so the evidence is admissible, but it also sounds like a negative story. How should I present it in order to maintain a neutral tone? 1101 (talk) 01:13, 1 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]