Talk:Very Live at Buddy's Place

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Very Live at Buddy's Place vs. (multiple) Tuff Dudes?

Groove Merchant Records released a "two-fer" Buddy Rich album titled Tuff Dude (GM 4407) which combined two previously released Groove Merchant albums, The Roar of '74 and Very Live at Buddy's Place. There is also another, different (?) album titled Tuff Dude from LRC that may be a slightly different version of Very Live at Buddy's Place. The recording location and date(s) seem to be about the same (May 1974 at "Buddy's Place") and the included tracks are the same - except on the LRC release, "Cardin Blue" is called "2nd Avenue Blues" and a seventh track, "Donna Lee" is added. However the playing times for most tracks are (sometimes very) different in some listings so this may be a different recording of the same songs? Perhaps the LRC release includes alternate (longer) takes of the same songs? Does anyone have a source for more info on this LRC Tuff Dude release and its relationship to Groove Merchant's Very Live at Buddy's Place? Some sources indicate the two albums are effectively the same but then why the sometimes large track time differences? compare track times at amazon.com and allmusic.com. Pugetbill (talk) 22:10, 17 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]