Talk:Vivian Grey

	Novels portal This article is within the scope of WikiProject Novels, an attempt to build a comprehensive and detailed guide to novels, novellas, novelettes and short stories on Wikipedia. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join the project and contribute to the general Project discussion to talk over new ideas and suggestions.NovelsWikipedia:WikiProject NovelsTemplate:WikiProject Novelsnovel articles
Mid	This article has been rated as Mid-importance on the project's importance scale.
	This article is supported by 19th century task force.

Untitled

Historians are generally unaminous in calling Vivian Grey a failure which nearly sank Disraeli's career. I've placed a dispute tag on the article and will be re-writing over the next few days. Mackensen (talk) 23:19, 16 July 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Strike that, I should have read Blake a little more carefully. It caused offence within the Tory literary world, but was rather popular otherwise. I'll remove the dispute tag. Mackensen (talk) 14:10, 20 August 2005 (UTC)[reply]

That may be- but I think the hyperbole in the article could definitely stand to be toned down a bit. I've tagged it for neutrality and lack of references. Badgerpatrol 17:45, 6 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I have added information to the description of Vivian Grey, to correct some facts and also to challenge the position that Vivian Grey "is" Benjamin Disraeli. User:Wendyeb —Preceding undated comment added 22:29, 17 April 2011 (UTC).[reply]

I cut the following:

"Vivian Grey includes the first use in print in English of the word "millionaire" (I.ix): "Were I the son of a Millionaire or a noble, I might have all".^[1]"

First of all, you can find it here in 1824:

https://books.google.com/books?id=ATlYAAAAcAAJ&pg=PR6&dq=A+ride+of+eight+hundred+miles+in+France++By+James+Paul+Cobbett&hl=en&sa=X&ei=iJTiVMSGGIvcoAT9kIHICg&ved=0CCUQ6AEwAQ#v=onepage&q=A%20ride%20of%20eight%20hundred%20miles%20in%20France%20%20By%20James%20Paul%20Cobbett&f=false

Second, the OED is not properly cited, and even if it were, the earliest dated example in the OED is not necessarily the earliest use. VaneWimsey (talk) 01:10, 17 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]

References

^ OED

Earl of Beaconsfield

Is one of the characters in this work of fiction the Earl of Beaconsfield, a title that Disraeli later carried? J S Ayer (talk) 00:18, 15 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Lord Beaconsfield, yes, I can't recall if it's ever indicated what grade of title he holds. I suspect it's somewhat coincidental, Disraeli lived nearby Beaconsfield later in life. Mackensen (talk) 00:27, 15 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

[1] OED

[1]