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Guild of Copy Editors April 2025 Newsletter

Guild of Copy Editors April 2025 Newsletter Hello and welcome to the April 2025 newsletter, a quarterly digest of Guild activities since December. Don't forget you can unsubscribe at any time; see below. We extend a warm welcome to all of our new members. We wish you all happy copy-editing. Election results: In our December 2025 coordinator election, Wracking stepped down as coordinator; we thank them for their service. Incumbents Dhtwiki, Miniapolis, and Mox Eden were reelected coordinators, and IQR and WikiEditor5678910 were newly elected coordinator, to serve through 30 June. Nominations for our mid-year Election of Coordinators will open on 1 June (UTC). Drive: 55 editors signed up for our January Backlog Elimination Drive 33 claimed at least one copy-edit and copy-edited 611,404 words in 237 articles. Barnstars awarded are here. Blitz: 14 editors signed up for our February Copy Editing Blitz. 10 claimed at least one copy-edit and copy-edited 46,749 words in 18 articles. Barnstars awarded are here. Drive: 47 editors signed up for our March Backlog Elimination Drive. 28 claimed at least one copy-edit and copy-edited 479,172 words in 207 articles. Barnstars awarded are here. Blitz: Sign up for our April Copy Editing Blitz, which runs from 13 to 19 April. Barnstars will be awarded here. Progress report: As of 9:45, 12 April 2024 (UTC), GOCE copyeditors have processed 89 requests since 1 January 2024, and the backlog stands at 2,264 articles. Thank you all again for your participation; we wouldn't be able to achieve what we have without you! Cheers from your GOCE coordinators Dhtwiki, IQR, Miniapolis, Mox Eden and WikiEditor5678910. To discontinue receiving GOCE newsletters, please remove your name from our mailing list.

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Question from Ahadhas (15:24, 15 April 2025)

I want to English translation ওয়াজেদ মিয়া আন্তর্জাতিক স্বর্ণপদক --Ahadhas (talk) 15:24, 15 April 2025 (UTC)

Hi Ahadhas, I'm not quite sure what you mean by that, but if you want to translate an article from another page to English, you can find instructions at Wikipedia:Translation. If you want to translate from English to another language instead, see Wikipedia:Translate us. Alpha3031 (t • c) 11:45, 18 April 2025 (UTC)

Question from Oxigalia ObtuseTriangle (19:55, 20 April 2025)

Hello! I am a new editor who has been interested in Wikipedia for quite some time. I know most of the more important rules, but I might make a few mistakes new editors are prone to. I hope to become a useful contributor one day. Do you know any unprotected articles that need work that I can work on? I'd like to help. --Oxigalia ObtuseTriangle (talk) 19:55, 20 April 2025 (UTC)

Hi Oxigalia ObtuseTriangle, you can find a list of things you can do at pages like Wikipedia:Task Center, Wikipedia:Backlog or Wikipedia:Maintenance, organised by type of work so you can find something you might be interested in. While they don't separate out protected from unprotected articles, most pages on Wikipedia are not protected. If you are mostly interested in one specific topic area, many (though not all) pages are tagged with Wikipedia:WikiProjects which sometimes have their own to-do lists. Alpha3031 (t • c) 11:06, 21 April 2025 (UTC)

Question from Thoppy234 (12:36, 21 April 2025)

I hope you're well. I’ve drafted an article on Toks Omishakin in my sandbox and would appreciate it if you could kindly review it before I proceed with submission to the mainspace. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Thoppy234/sandbox/Adetokunbo_%22Toks%22_Omishakin

Your feedback would be invaluable in ensuring it meets Wikipedia’s notability and formatting standards.

Thank you in advance for your time and support.

Best regards, Thoppy234 --Thoppy234 (talk) 12:36, 21 April 2025 (UTC)

Hi Thoppy234, I've taken a quick look at the article and while it might be considered to meet our inclusion criteria on the basis of WP:NPOL, it would probably benefit from sources with a bit more detail. In general, I would recommend people start an article by looking for a few big, detailed sources. The bigger and more detailed you can write an article from only your best one or two sources the better, as long as those sources are reliable and independent. Other sources can still be used of course, but once you have your core sources it's an easier job to use other sources to fill in details. Alpha3031 (t • c) 12:42, 25 April 2025 (UTC)

Question from Ifeanyi Njoku (15:54, 21 April 2025)

How do I start a new page, I am writing a biography --Ifeanyi Njoku (talk) 15:54, 21 April 2025 (UTC)

Hi Ifeanyi Njoku, you can find Help:Your first article as an guide to writing your first article. It will also have a blue button for the article wizard that you can use to create a draft that you can put things in. Alpha3031 (t • c) 12:32, 25 April 2025 (UTC)

Question from Errperson (16:50, 21 April 2025)

I want to fix this citation: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tanistry#cite_note-Fletcher-1979-13

The citation links to the incorrect Joseph Fletcher. The correct article is https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joseph_Fletcher_(historian), not https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joseph_Fletcher who is the historian's father. I think Joseph_Fletcher_(Historian) should also be clarified as Joseph Fletcher Jr. --Errperson (talk) 16:50, 21 April 2025 (UTC)

Hey, sorry I wasn't able to respond in time but thanks for picking up things like this! Hope you continue to spot things in articles interesting to you. Alpha3031 (t • c) 12:30, 25 April 2025 (UTC)

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A bowl of strawberries for you!

A big THANK YOU for reverting the apparent whitewashing of the Australian Citizens Party page. It seems a lot of us had concerns that the dregs of the LaRouche cult were trying to sex-up the unflattering public information about their Australian arm. Maybe not a surprising event given that Oz is on the brink of a federal general election, & the recent attempt by one of the party's candidates to massage the page was spurned by diligent editors. What was so disturbing about this latest manipulation was just how slick it was, with the dexterity & civility of the partisan POV-pushing being just a little sinister. The editor responsible would seem to be something other than a novice despite their public claims, which begs the question of are we dealing with a sock puppet, or a "reputation management" specialist, or a skilled LaRouche flunkey, or all 3? In any case, you did a fine job when you tackled the damage. Keep up the great work. Cheers! Bluevista99 (talk) 16:37, 27 April 2025 (UTC)

Question from NotQualified

Hi, you told me to look here Wikipedia:Reliable sources#Usage by other sources to evaluate if a source is to be deemed reliable. This is pretty vague, how often is often enough for a source to be cited on a particular topic? NotQualified (talk) 19:24, 5 May 2025 (UTC)

NotQualified, I'm a little hesitant at doing anything that might be perceived as encouraging you to test the boundaries of your topic ban, but since this question was addressed directly to me and not on a general page, I will try and answer this, but... just, do keep in mind that if someone else saw you start discussions like this closely related to why you were banned, it's unlikely to be looked favourably upon in any hypothetical future appeal.

On the actual question, to start with, to evaluate a source in general you should look at the Wikipedia:Reliable sources guideline as a whole, not a specific section of it. § Usage by other sources only covers a specific type of evidence, and a type usually considered less definitive than other evidence (where available). Positive UBO could be outweighed by evidence of a negative reputation from other factors, and vice versa, other evidence of a positive reputation for fact-checking or accuracy could be outweighed by negative UBO. Hence, there is not any one single frequency of outside citation that is often enough, all of the evidence being looked at need to be weighed before determining a source has good or poor reputation for fact-checking and accuracy.

You should also familiarise yourself with other content policies and guidelines, including but not limited to WP:OR, WP:DUE, WP:EXCEPTIONAL, WP:NOT and WP:BLP, because even if a specific WP:SOURCE (that is, all of: the publisher and publication, author and the specific article) is considered "generally reliable" or "generally unreliable", it can still be not used, or used, due to those other content policies. (though for the "not reliable" side, if we managed to get down to a specific article, it is rather unlikely we would turn around and decide to use it for something) In general, you'd start with the best secondary sources, and then use those as the structure from which the rest of what you're writing is built. As an analogy, if you're building a house, your core sources are the frame, the other secondary sources are the bricks, and other sources are mortar that you might use in little bits here or there.

The usual suggestion is to do a lot of the work you're struggling with in an area that you aren't likely to get into trouble for. Find pages with active sourcing disputes in, I dunno, chemistry or something equally uncontroversial that you're not likely to diverge wildly from consensus and get into massive disputes, and that you won't likely find a issue you feel you can't drop. You will get a better idea of what kind of things would get pushback from other editors, and how to answer their objections, once you've done it a bit more, and it's better (easier) to do that in a less controversial topic areas without ending up doing something you shouldn't have. Alpha3031 (t • c) 13:24, 6 May 2025 (UTC)

To be clear, this question isn't to do with the ban discussion, it's just a general question. Also, I was banned for bludgeoning, not misusing sources, in case someone else wants to know what that's referring to. NotQualified (talk) 13:46, 6 May 2025 (UTC)

Books & Bytes – Issue 68

The Wikipedia Library: Books & Bytes
Issue 68, March–April 2025

In this issue we highlight two resource renewals, #EveryBookItsReader, a note about Phabricator, and, as always, a roundup of news and community items related to libraries and digital knowledge.

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Question from SANKOMOTA (14:50, 17 May 2025)

Creation of articles of South Africa or African singers which I get deletion tag --SANKOMOTA (talk) 14:50, 17 May 2025 (UTC)

Hi SANKOMOTA, I'm not quite sure I've correctly understood your question, but I can see two articles you've created, Richard Lukunku and Condry Ziqubu, one of which is deleted due to copyright reasons. To avoid copyright issues, you should not copy an article and make changes, even if you do make several. It is better to read your source to get an idea of what it says and then write the article entirely from scratch, so that there is nothing that is the same as any copyrighted text (which most texts will automatically be due to international copyright law, unless explicitly released). Even if you reword things, Wikipedia:Close paraphrasing can still be an issue, so it really is better to write things completely from scratch. Alpha3031 (t • c) 07:17, 22 May 2025 (UTC)

It was condry ziqubu one but i used my words on lekunku 1 and don't get it why should I get blocked while I have been on wiki for almost a year and ran projects on it ,sometimes i feel like people like you are making others to feel little as if they are useless some of us uses digital platforms as a source of income 41.144.69.119 (talk) 07:46, 22 May 2025 (UTC)

As for Lukunku article you can mark it on speedy deletion again I have been getting mentor from people who joined Wikipedia 15 years ago and they didn't saw any problems about my articles you can delete it too thank you. SANKOMOTA (talk) 07:58, 22 May 2025 (UTC)

Becuase you guys seems like you the ones who knows Wikipedia rules and pillars I was nominated to be an Wikipedia trainer that is currently on in south Africa it's a pity you the only one who saw that and others don't I know Wikipedia pillars I know how must I write the articles ,sometimes you should just correct the mistake and carry on Wikipedia it's about editing not about one man show ,I respect everyone but I hate to be disrespected let alone to be undermined, most of you guys doing this are from Europe,USA but you discouraging people in south Africa about the things that they know seems like as an African what ever I write about Africa it's stupid and you know it better than me ,lukunku article has been there edited ,we even edited Trump page about the meeting he held with Ramaphosa yesterday .please don't do that ziqubu article has been deleted am fine with that SANKOMOTA (talk) 08:06, 22 May 2025 (UTC)

SANKOMOTA, you are not blocked and you won't be as long as you follow the rules. The rules about copyright are specifically to protect Wikipedia. If Wikipedia hosts copyrighted content, Wikipedia could get sued, and then we will all have nothing to edit. If you are using Wikipedia as a source of income, please also see Wikipedia:Paid-contribution disclosure. Wikipedia is also required to ensure paid contributions are disclosed, as Wikipedia operates in the United States, which has laws against covert advertising. Again, if you get Wikipedia shut down because you introduce content that is against the law in the US, where Wikipedia operates, that would mean no more Wikipedia, for anyone. Wikipedia is required to follow the law.

If there are no issues with your article, it will not be deleted. If you want to fix the issues with an article that has been deleted, you can request it to be emailed to you. However, hosting content that is not allowed by the law is risky, even if you personally would not be legally affected. Alpha3031 (t • c) 08:06, 22 May 2025 (UTC)

I saw my mistakes on ziqubu"s article and made it better with lukunku 1 as i got praises about it even though its still been improving and so forth ,the mistake wont happen again ,my forgiveness again thank.i wont disgrace Wikipedia rights and will always follow 5 pillars of it .chiao 41.144.69.119 (talk) 08:11, 22 May 2025 (UTC)

Question from ClinicalCommEdits (07:47, 23 May 2025)

Hello, and thank you for supporting my first steps as a Wikipedia editor! I have questions regarding the referencing of the article. I am not quite comfortable with it, and might have done it properly on the first article I edited. If there is a tutorial you could share with me, it would be great. Thank you. --ClinicalCommEdits (talk) 07:47, 23 May 2025 (UTC)

Question from Responseableforduosdeath (08:16, 26 May 2025)

How to add photos? --Responseableforduosdeath (talk) 08:16, 26 May 2025 (UTC)