User talk:Arun singh krishnaut
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Wikipedia and copyright
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Hello Arun singh krishnaut, and welcome to Wikipedia. Your additions to Sengar have been removed in whole or in part, as they appear to have added copyrighted content without evidence that the source material is in the public domain or has been released by its owner or legal agent under a suitably-free and compatible copyright license. (To request such a release, see Wikipedia:Requesting copyright permission.) While we appreciate your contributions to Wikipedia, there are certain things you must keep in mind about using information from sources to avoid copyright and plagiarism issues.
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It's very important that contributors understand and follow these practices, as policy requires that people who persistently do not must be blocked from editing. If you have any questions about this, you are welcome to leave me a message on my talk page. Thank you. bonadea contributions talk 09:56, 31 May 2020 (UTC)
The information about the origin of Sengar Jati, which is a gotra of Rajputs, has been given incorrect information. Even in the given source, there is no truth of any kind. Hindi page sengar link- https://hi.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E0%A4%B8%E0%A5%87%E0%A4%82%E0%A4%97%E0%A4%B0
Ishant Singh, a Wikipedia user , has made vulgar comments about Yadav women. Link- https://hi.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E0%A4%B8%E0%A4%A6%E0%A4%B8%E0%A5%8D%E0%A4%AF:%E0%A4%87%E0%A4%B6%E0%A4%BE%E0%A4%82%E0%A4%A4_%E0%A4%B8%E0%A5%87%E0%A4%82%E0%A4%97%E0%A4%B0 The source of what has changed in the Sengar caste( Rajpoot gotra ) is not reliable in any way. The source that has been given about Lord Rama's sister is also not proved that they would have been related to him in any way with the sister of Lord Shri Ram. The truth is that the word Sengar is not even mentioned in the mythological books, Vedas, Puranas, Upanishads, etc., their origin in any book is not mentioned in any mythical book. If people like this will be linked to the people, then there are many modern gotras who will start connecting with mythical men to prove themselves great.Which will not be true at all, Ishant Sengar seems to be hated by one of his special Jati Yadavs as he made objectionable talk about Ahir women on his page. In order to prove himself great, he has given a wrong source, or from the source he has given, in no way there is any evidence about the origin of Senger, even the name Senger. This is a source about the origin of Sanger, which was already removed, the source is- History of the Rise of the Mahomedan Power in India, Till the Year AD 1612, "History of the rise of the Mahomedan power in India, till the year A.D. 1612: to which is added an account of the conquest, by the kings of Hydrabad, of those parts of the Madras provinces denominated the Ceded districts and northern Circars : with copious notes, Volume 1" - https://books.google.co.in/books?id=NG8-AAAAcAAJ&pg=PR64&dq=the+origin+of+rajpoots+thus+related&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjG1O-JxrHoAhUWH7cAHSE8Dr4QuwUILDAA#v=onepage&q=the%20origin%20of%20rajpoots%20is%20thus%20related%20the%20rajas%2C%20not%20satisfied%20with%20their%20wives%20&f=false, https://books.google.com/books?id=sllrz9lD1eQC&pg=PR64 In this, I have been told about the origin of them in my source, then you are requested to please remove their mythical origin and the facts which have been written about them, which were given earlier about their origin. Add it again. Arun singh krishnaut (talk) 10:04, 31 May 2020 (UTC)
- Your reply does not in any way address the issue. You may or may not be the same individual who added the copyright violation in the first place, but you must have been aware of the fact that the text is identical to the text in the source, when you re-added it. In addition, the text doesn't even appear to be about the topic of the article, so that's another reason not to include it. --bonadea contributions talk 10:10, 31 May 2020 (UTC)
The truth shown in the Hindi page about the origin of Sengar is not proved in any way.Whatever sources are given, they do not prove the truth of the origin of Sangar caste. Their truth is not established by any mythological book or any mythical man. There is no word Sanger in any mythological book. Hindi wikipedia sengar page link- https://hi.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E0%A4%B8%E0%A5%87%E0%A4%82%E0%A4%97%E0%A4%B0 Arun singh krishnaut (talk) 10:20, 31 May 2020 (UTC)
इससे आप origin को देख सकते है । Arun singh krishnaut (talk) 10:23, 31 May 2020 (UTC)
- The article Sengar does not say anything about a mythical origin. (There used to be some claims of that kind, but those were removed in January 2019.) If other Wikipedia versions in other languages include such claims, that is not something that English Wikipedia editors can do anything about. Every language version of Wikipedia is its own thing, with different guidelines. --bonadea contributions talk 10:25, 31 May 2020 (UTC)
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Your addition to Rajput has been removed in whole or in part, as it appears to have added copyrighted material to Wikipedia without evidence of permission from the copyright holder. If you are the copyright holder, please read Wikipedia:Donating copyrighted materials for more information on uploading your material to Wikipedia. For legal reasons, Wikipedia cannot accept copyrighted material, including text or images from print publications or from other websites, without an appropriate and verifiable license. All such contributions will be deleted. You may use external websites or publications as a source of information, but not as a source of content, such as sentences or images—you must write using your own words. Wikipedia takes copyright very seriously, and persistent violators of our copyright policy will be blocked from editing. See Wikipedia:Copying text from other sources for more information. bonadea contributions talk 10:53, 31 May 2020 (UTC)
Last warning
[edit]After you were warned above about adding copyrighted material to Sengar, and showed you had read the warning by responding to it, you went ahead and added the very same copyright violation to Rajput. Ignoring information about Wikipedia's copyright policies is very disruptive. If it happens one more time, you will be blocked from editing. Bishonen | tålk 11:14, 31 May 2020 (UTC).
- Can we use external websites or publications as a source of information ? The proof of origin that I have given as given in it.About their origin. There are theori that tell about their origin. This is one of them that I added. So am i in rajput english langauage page - Can I use this source as a source of information through external websites or publications in Rajput page? Arun singh krishnaut (talk) 11:25, 31 May 2020 (UTC)
- Using them as a source for information is allright if they are reliable sources — not all websites are created equal. An obvious example of websites that must never be used for information are biased ones such as noticeboards for a particular caste. Read more about reliable sources at Wikipedia:Reliable sources and, specifically for articles about social groups, User:Sitush/Common.
- But your question isn't really relevant to the warnings you have been given about copyright. You must simply never copy and paste from a website or copy text from a book. Do please read Bonadea's first warning above more carefully and learn about our copyright policies. If you can't or won't learn, you will be blocked. Bishonen | tålk 11:39, 31 May 2020 (UTC).
- @Bishonen: @Bonadea: I can't tell what text was redacted from Rajput, but if the text is taken from History of the rise of the Mohamedan power in India, please recognize that this book was published in 1829: it is unlikely copyright protection still applies. This does not make the edits any better or more relevant, and the text is very likely not a reliable source, but the use of this text is not likely a copyright issue. WikiDan61ChatMe!ReadMe!! 12:26, 1 June 2020 (UTC)
- The text has been re-issued in a later edition, which was published by Cambridge University Press in 2013, and copyrighted as such. This is something I've run up against in my RL line of work; I think it is a bit more complex than this, actually, so that a text might be out of copyright even if it is still in print in a copyrighted edition, but I think that in order to claim that you must be able to claim that you are using the old, uncopyrighted edition as your physical source. --bonadea contributions talk 12:37, 1 June 2020 (UTC)
- Thank you, WikiDan61. Please note, Arun singh krishnaut, that you can not use sources from as far back as 1829. They're not reliable for this kind of subject. So whether it's an unreliable source from 1829, or a copyright violation from 2013, it's not a proper source for you to use. Please use modern academic sources. Bishonen | tålk 13:12, 1 June 2020 (UTC).
- The text has been re-issued in a later edition, which was published by Cambridge University Press in 2013, and copyrighted as such. This is something I've run up against in my RL line of work; I think it is a bit more complex than this, actually, so that a text might be out of copyright even if it is still in print in a copyrighted edition, but I think that in order to claim that you must be able to claim that you are using the old, uncopyrighted edition as your physical source. --bonadea contributions talk 12:37, 1 June 2020 (UTC)
- @Bishonen: @Bonadea: I can't tell what text was redacted from Rajput, but if the text is taken from History of the rise of the Mohamedan power in India, please recognize that this book was published in 1829: it is unlikely copyright protection still applies. This does not make the edits any better or more relevant, and the text is very likely not a reliable source, but the use of this text is not likely a copyright issue. WikiDan61ChatMe!ReadMe!! 12:26, 1 June 2020 (UTC)