User talk:Monstera enjoyer
Welcome to Wikipedia
[edit]If you want to know some of the things I wish I had known when I started editing check out my sandbox where I have been working on a guide to editing plant articles. I find archive.org to be incredibly useful for finding information about many plant species and wish I knew about it from day one of editing here. Happy editing. 🌿MtBotany (talk) 16:34, 12 February 2025 (UTC)
- Thanks for the info. Monstera enjoyer (talk) 16:42, 12 February 2025 (UTC)
"Homo smalluseditus" listed at Redirects for discussion
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The redirect Homo smalluseditus has been listed at redirects for discussion to determine whether its use and function meets the redirect guidelines. Anyone, including you, is welcome to comment on this redirect at Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2025 February 21 § Homo smalluseditus until a consensus is reached. Elmidae (talk · contribs) 14:23, 21 February 2025 (UTC)
Unsourced additions
[edit]I have reverted a number of lengthy descriptions you added to plant articles because they were entirely unsourced. Sourcing is not optional - it is the basic requirement for all additions of material to WP. Feel free to re-insert the text IF you provide verifiable and reliable published sources for all statements made. Cheers --Elmidae (talk · contribs) 14:29, 21 February 2025 (UTC)
- I actually got that info form chatgpt, so should i source it ? I just wanted to know that's all. Monstera enjoyer (talk) 14:38, 21 February 2025 (UTC)
- Good grief. Do not use anything you get from ChatGPT or any other AI/LLM sources. Look, please do yourself a favour and acquaint yourself thoroughly with Wikipedia rules before editing. Start with Wikipedia:A primer for newcomers. And as I suspect that you are rather young (apologies if that is not the case), I would also suggest Wikipedia:Guidance for younger editors. When it comes to sourcing, all the rules and guidelines are here, but what it comes down to is: if you want to add it to WP, it has to be verifiable (i.e. the reader must be able to look it up) and published (i.e. available for those who try to look it up, at least in principle) and from a reliable source (i.e. some source with editorial oversight - a professionally published book, an edited journal, a newspaper, a curated database, etc.). Grabbing random info from a chatbot violates all of these. Please do not do it. --Elmidae (talk · contribs) 14:58, 21 February 2025 (UTC)
- i re-added info to the page Calamus manan and provided a source this time. Monstera enjoyer (talk) 15:36, 21 February 2025 (UTC)
- Please DO read the information at WP:Reliable sources. Wikis are not suitable sources because they are crowd-sourced (therefore, WP is not a reliable source either). Don't cite them. In this case, the original source was given (a 1979 book), so that can be cited instead. --Elmidae (talk · contribs) 16:15, 21 February 2025 (UTC)
- i re-added info to the page Calamus manan and provided a source this time. Monstera enjoyer (talk) 15:36, 21 February 2025 (UTC)
- Good grief. Do not use anything you get from ChatGPT or any other AI/LLM sources. Look, please do yourself a favour and acquaint yourself thoroughly with Wikipedia rules before editing. Start with Wikipedia:A primer for newcomers. And as I suspect that you are rather young (apologies if that is not the case), I would also suggest Wikipedia:Guidance for younger editors. When it comes to sourcing, all the rules and guidelines are here, but what it comes down to is: if you want to add it to WP, it has to be verifiable (i.e. the reader must be able to look it up) and published (i.e. available for those who try to look it up, at least in principle) and from a reliable source (i.e. some source with editorial oversight - a professionally published book, an edited journal, a newspaper, a curated database, etc.). Grabbing random info from a chatbot violates all of these. Please do not do it. --Elmidae (talk · contribs) 14:58, 21 February 2025 (UTC)
- I just had a look at your edits and I am going to point out what can go wrong when you do not check sources. I looked up Pteridophyte in the Oxford English Dictionary and it does not mean "feather plant" as you edited on 17 February. It means fern plant because though the Greek word it was derived from meant feather it was the Greek word for fern that was borrowed by Latin and later used in Neo-Latin compound words.
- Even when citing a source things can go wrong because a source is mistaken. It is good to be cautious when a source contains a fact that is outside their expertise. When possible it is much better to cite a source about etymology like the OED if you have access or a fairly reliable dictionary like Collins. I've seen the mistaken "feather plant" information in some Encyclopedias like Comptons.
- I've also reverted your additions to Monstera glaucescens, but you are welcome to change it back if you find reliable sources. 🌿MtBotany (talk) 20:17, 21 February 2025 (UTC)
Wikipedia and copyright
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Hello Monstera enjoyer! Your additions to Monstera dissecta have been removed in whole or in part, as they appear to have added copyrighted content without evidence that the source material is in the public domain or has been released by its owner or legal agent under a suitably free and compatible copyright license. (To request such a release, see Wikipedia:Requesting copyright permission.) While we appreciate your contributions to Wikipedia, it's important to understand and adhere to guidelines about using information from sources to prevent copyright and plagiarism issues. Here are the key points:
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- Paraphrasing: Beyond limited quotations, you are required to put all information in your own words. Following the source's wording too closely can lead to copyright issues and is not permitted; see Wikipedia:Close paraphrasing. Even when paraphrasing, you must still cite your sources as appropriate.
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It's very important that contributors understand and follow these practices. Persistent failure to comply may result in being blocked from editing. If you have any questions or need further clarification, please ask them here on this page, or leave a message on my talk page. Thank you. Diannaa (talk) 18:57, 23 February 2025 (UTC)