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You currently appear to be engaged in an edit war. This means that you are repeatedly changing content back to how you think it should be although other editors disagree. Users are expected to collaborate with others, to avoid editing disruptively, and to try to reach a consensus, rather than repeatedly undoing other users' edits once it is known that there is a disagreement.
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November 2024
[edit] Please do not add or change content, as you did at Ahvaz, without citing a reliable source. Please review the guidelines at Wikipedia:Citing sources and take this opportunity to add references to the article. Thank you. HistoryofIran (talk) 00:42, 18 November 2024 (UTC)
You currently appear to be engaged in an edit war according to the reverts you have made on Ahvaz. This means that you are repeatedly changing content back to how you think it should be although other editors disagree. Users are expected to collaborate with others, to avoid editing disruptively, and to try to reach a consensus, rather than repeatedly undoing other users' edits once it is known that there is a disagreement.
Points to note:
- Edit warring is disruptive regardless of how many reverts you have made;
- Do not edit war even if you believe you are right.
If you find yourself in an editing dispute, use the article's talk page to discuss controversial changes and work towards a version that represents consensus among editors. You can post a request for help at an appropriate noticeboard or seek dispute resolution. In some cases, it may be appropriate to request temporary page protection. If you engage in an edit war, you may be blocked from editing. HistoryofIran (talk) 21:28, 18 November 2024 (UTC)
Disruptive editing at Talk:Ahvaz
[edit] Hello. This is a message to let you know that one or more of your recent contributions did not appear to be constructive and have been reverted. Please take some time to familiarise yourself with our policies and guidelines. You can find information about these at our welcome page which also provides further information about contributing constructively to this encyclopedia. If you only meant to make test edits, please use your sandbox for that. If you think I made a mistake, or if you have any questions, you may leave a message on my talk page. Thank you. Sheriff | ☎ 911 | 00:30, 22 November 2024 (UTC)
November 2024
[edit] There is currently a discussion at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. Thank you. Sheriff | ☎ 911 | 20:56, 22 November 2024 (UTC)

{{unblock|reason=Your reason here ~~~~}}
. --Chris | Crazycomputers (talk) 21:56, 22 November 2024 (UTC)- Hello, PayamAvarwand,
- When your block is over, please focus on article improvement and not criticizing your fellow editors. If you persist in doing this, your next block will be much, much longer. If you have questions about blocks on Wikipedia, please bring them to the Teahouse. Thank you. Liz Read! Talk! 00:49, 23 November 2024 (UTC)
- Hello @Liz:, sorry for bothering you. Unfortunately, PayamAvarwand did not learn from this; [1] HistoryofIran (talk) 23:12, 30 November 2024 (UTC)
- +1 They have used the same abusive language towards me, which I chose to ignore, but now they are directing it at another fellow editor as well. Their behaviour clearly indicates they are WP:NOTHERE. Sheriff | ☎ 911 | 23:37, 30 November 2024 (UTC)
- Hello @Liz:, sorry for bothering you. Unfortunately, PayamAvarwand did not learn from this; [1] HistoryofIran (talk) 23:12, 30 November 2024 (UTC)
February 2025
[edit] Please do not remove maintenance templates from pages on Wikipedia, as you did to Ahvaz, without resolving the problem that the template refers to, or giving a valid reason for the removal in the edit summary. Your removal of this template does not appear constructive, and has been reverted. Thank you. Dl2000 (talk) 23:35, 11 February 2025 (UTC)
- Since the template was not OK before, I start to do my changes step by step with entering the reasons in edit summary, as I'm not sure, what was exactly false! PayamAvarwand (talk) 00:31, 12 February 2025 (UTC)
Please do not add or change content, as you did at Ahvaz, without citing a reliable source. Please review the guidelines at Wikipedia:Citing sources and take this opportunity to add references to the article. Thank you. Dl2000 (talk) 23:35, 11 February 2025 (UTC)
Please stop your disruptive editing.
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If you continue to disrupt Wikipedia, as you did at Ahvaz, you may be blocked from editing. HistoryofIran (talk) 00:54, 12 February 2025 (UTC)
- PLEASE ENOUGH! HistoryofIran
- As User:Dl2000 explained, I understood. PLEASE DO NOT INTERFERE yourself in this subject! PLEASE!
- The citing Problem has nothing to do with me and with my changes. I am just resorting the same available information in the page AND NO MORE!
- I have accepted my minor change in the template.
- I AM ASKING YOU another time to stop to write me about what another person explained me.
- I am spending my time, I'm not drinking beer and feel I'm the god of wikipedia. PayamAvarwand (talk) 01:44, 12 February 2025 (UTC)
May 2025
[edit] You currently appear to be engaged in an edit war according to the reverts you have made on Persian Gulf. This means that you are repeatedly changing content back to how you think it should be although other editors disagree. Users are expected to collaborate with others, to avoid editing disruptively, and to try to reach a consensus, rather than repeatedly undoing other users' edits once it is known that there is a disagreement.
Points to note:
- Edit warring is disruptive regardless of how many reverts you have made;
- Do not edit war even if you believe you are right.
If you find yourself in an editing dispute, use the article's talk page to discuss controversial changes and work towards a version that represents consensus among editors. You can post a request for help at an appropriate noticeboard or seek dispute resolution. In some cases, it may be appropriate to request temporary page protection. If you engage in an edit war, you may be blocked from editing. Skitash (talk) 22:51, 8 May 2025 (UTC)
Please stop. If you continue to blank out or remove portions of page content, templates, or other materials from Wikipedia without adequate explanation, as you did at Persian Gulf, you may be blocked from editing. Skitash (talk) 00:38, 9 May 2025 (UTC)
Notice of edit warring noticeboard discussion
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Hello. This message is being sent to inform you that there is currently a discussion involving you at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Edit warring regarding a possible violation of Wikipedia's policy on edit warring. Thank you. Skitash (talk) 01:08, 9 May 2025 (UTC)
May 2025
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{{unblock|reason=Your reason here ~~~~}}
. The Bushranger One ping only 01:33, 9 May 2025 (UTC)- You're not smart. PayamAvarwand (talk) 01:45, 9 May 2025 (UTC)
- I'm also not edit-warring. - The Bushranger One ping only 03:31, 9 May 2025 (UTC)

PayamAvarwand (block log • active blocks • global blocks • contribs • deleted contribs • filter log • creation log • change block settings • unblock • checkuser (log))
Request reason:
Your reason here PayamAvarwand (talk) 01:34, 9 May 2025 (UTC)
Decline reason:
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PayamAvarwand (block log • active blocks • global blocks • contribs • deleted contribs • filter log • creation log • change block settings • unblock • checkuser (log))
Request reason:
Sorry, I don't understand! I have another account in the Persian Wikipedia to work there too, which has nothing to do with the english Wikipedia! Are you meaning it's a fault of me?! But I cannot work with the persian account in the english Wikipedia! Or are you talking about something else?! Please check your decision! What is going on since yesterday?! I am a Completely normal guy, why did you blocked me at all?! Is this serious?! PayamAvarwand (talk) 22:53, 9 May 2025 (UTC)
Decline reason:
You seem to be admitting you evaded your block. PhilKnight (talk) 01:35, 10 May 2025 (UTC)
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PayamAvarwand (block log • active blocks • global blocks • contribs • deleted contribs • filter log • creation log • change block settings • unblock • checkuser (log))
Request reason:
I kindly ask you to read my text carefully! I am telling, I had both accounts since monthes, because I have worked seriously on both the English and Persian Wikipedia, and as far as I know, I cannot do anything in the english Wikipedia with the persian Wikipedia account! Why are you trying to manipulate the personality of a hardworking contributor? :( PayamAvarwand (talk) 01:47, 10 May 2025 (UTC)
Decline reason:
Procedural decline, as only one unblock request may be open at a time. The Bushranger One ping only 06:43, 10 May 2025 (UTC)
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Hi PayamAvarwand, your global account is used across all Wikipedia editions. PayamAvarwand is not an English-specific Wikipedia account, and both your edits here and on Persian Wikipedia were made using PayamAvarwand.
To address the possibility that you misunderstood and thought you needed a separate account for each edition of Wikipedia, you created P.AvarwandArabianGulf on May 9th (not "since monthes") to post on English Wikipedia while you were blocked, and continued to post with it on English Wikipedia, evading your block. You did not create P.AvarwandArabianGulf to post on Persian Wikipedia as that account has never posted on Persian Wikipedia.
You have turned a 24-hour block for edit warring into an indefinite one thanks to rudeness and evading your block. If you're not serious about being unblocked, then there's nothing to do but wish you well with your next project. But if you are, the only path to being unblocked is to stop making baseless accusations about others, face up to your own conduct, and detail how you will avoid that conduct in the future. An administrator puts their reputation on the line when they trust a blocked user to contribute to Wikipedia in the future, and yelling at people is a poor way to earn trust. However you decide to proceed from here, I wish you nothing but the best. CoffeeCrumbs (talk) 02:16, 10 May 2025 (UTC)

PayamAvarwand (block log • active blocks • global blocks • contribs • deleted contribs • filter log • creation log • change block settings • unblock • checkuser (log))
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PayamAvarwand (talk) 02:34, 10 May 2025 (UTC)
- See https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Log/P.AvarwandArabianGulf - you created this account on may 9th. PhilKnight (talk) 02:42, 10 May 2025 (UTC)
- Stop
lying, and stopevading your block. - The Bushranger One ping only 06:44, 10 May 2025 (UTC)- It seems the SPI returned CU results as "technically unrelated", which makes me wonder if this really is sock, or meat... or perhaps a joe job? To pick such an obviously-connected username would seem remarkably silly for a sockmaster, whereas it would make perfect sense for a joe. (Which then raises the question, who is joe-jobbing?)
- The user seems genuinely to think that editing on en.wiki and fa.wiki involves two separate accounts, so their reference to "both accounts" could just reflect that misunderstanding.
- I'm not arguing they should be unblocked on this basis, far from it; the sustained campaign of edit warring, disruptive editing, personal attacks, etc. is enough to warrant keeping the block. I'm just floating the possibility there might be an innocent(ish) explanation to the alleged socking. -- DoubleGrazing (talk) 07:56, 10 May 2025 (UTC)
- Was P.AvarwandArabianGulf checked as part of the SPI? It looked like the request was for the other accounts with this one basically assumed as a WP:DUCK and not formally listed in the SPI request. CoffeeCrumbs (talk) 09:09, 10 May 2025 (UTC)
- Good point @CoffeeCrumbs; I'll go and ask that question. -- DoubleGrazing (talk) 09:31, 10 May 2025 (UTC)
- What are you really talking about? I have no idea why you are so brutal to me? I ONLY MADE SOME CHANGES ON this and this Pages, and the USER @Skitash have immediately undo my changes and warned me 2 times and then I was blocked after a few minutes, although:
- 1- My changes were made according to the officially published sources.
- 2- I have tried to communicate with him before!
- It is no matter, that in my experience, this behavior means that he is obviously somewhat radical in his beliefs, but why do you support my block status for nothing?! OF COURSE, this is a Problem from your side, that a user (by misusing my username) has been created: "P.AvarwandArabianGulf". THAT HAS NOTHING TO ME! CORRECT YOUR FAULT PLEASE! --PayamAvarwand (talk) 16:05, 10 May 2025 (UTC)
- The sockpuppeting is only one of the many problems here. The idea is just to determine whether there was also sockpuppetry. Even if there is no sockpuppetry, there is a great deal of worrisome conduct, from serious things such as your repeated personal attacks on other and your edit warring, to less serious things that are still problems like how sourcing works in Wikipedia (official sources don't automatically override consensus).
- While it's natural to be concerned if someone is framing you for sockpuppet usage, that still doesn't give you justifiable reasons to attack Skitash without extremely compelling evidence. You shouldn't be discussing anyone else's conduct other than your own. CoffeeCrumbs (talk) 17:32, 10 May 2025 (UTC)
- 1- Are you meaning I should be punished for my past when I was just a newcomer?! Or what do you want with the
- 2- Do you mean, I should not discuss about the highly suspicious person, who has created a fake account with the similar username of mine, and tried to make interferes over another internet line (Smartphone)? It's Ok.
- I'm kind of speechless. I was not so active in the english Wikipedia! Could I ask you to stop this offensive Block status! PayamAvarwand (talk) 19:04, 10 May 2025 (UTC)
- You still don't seem to understand that throwing around accusations without evidence, hyperbole about the Wikipedia "mafia," or minimizing the reasons you were blocked before sockpuppeting ever became an issue are making it less likely you'll be unblocked anytime soon. Insulting people and general rudeness are not "newcomer" issues.
- You appeared confused, so I explained to you how accounts on the Wikipedia sites work and why you were suspected of sockpuppetry, and gave you advice on how to demonstrate to admins that you could be trusted and contribute constructively. Whether you choose to ignore the explanation and the advice is up to you; I have nothing more to offer you. CoffeeCrumbs (talk) 19:57, 10 May 2025 (UTC)
- Just look at the sentence from such an old experienced member (The Bushranger): Stop lying, and stop evading your block!
- Nobody is allowed to talk to anyone like this! In this case, even worse!
- The truth is I have lost some of my trust!
- I woke up, and I saw this: Since you have evaded the block by using another account I have made the block indefinite.
- I'm still in shock. PayamAvarwand (talk) 22:20, 10 May 2025 (UTC)
- Even given the fact the account was apparently not you evading your block (and thus I have struck the comment about lying, and apologise for that), the IP linked there absolutely was. - The Bushranger One ping only 22:35, 10 May 2025 (UTC)
- Here are my IPs:
- 2001:9e8:f583:9c00:650a:ba34:6ff0:a66
- (Redacted)
- Please show me the addresses, and please make sure that the IP addresses are valid and not just faked ones. If you're really sure, I will leave Wikipedia forever.
- I have used my valuable time to contribute with the utmost honesty and the best possible sources, even little, if someone tried to smear me in such a professional way using my IP, I should probably take care of my security! :( PayamAvarwand (talk) 22:49, 10 May 2025 (UTC)
- Nobody
smear[ed you] in such a professional way using [your] IP
. The IP in this edit is from the same IPv6 range as yours per your mentionings above, and is written in the exact same style as your posts here. You evaded your block to attack Skitash on AN. - The Bushranger One ping only 01:45, 11 May 2025 (UTC)- Please do not confuse the topics! Look at the page and the date and time> The IP in this edit
- This is for yesterday. Of course that is me.
- I am fighting againgst the fake account> "P.AvarwandArabianGulf", Please check a bit more exact! PayamAvarwand (talk) 11:36, 11 May 2025 (UTC)
- Nobody is
confus[ing] the topics
but you. I said you evaded your block using an IP. You saidshow me the addresses
. I did. You evaded your block using an IP, and above you straight-up admit it:Of course that is me
. End of discussion. - The Bushranger One ping only 19:59, 11 May 2025 (UTC)- Ok, I lost in this technical topic.
- What about the other one?! Refrencing me to WP:TINC for (Skitash)'s behavior is a kind of Human Stain. You Are USA, and we have much more Expectation.
- I say goodbye for now, and as you said, end of discussion. PayamAvarwand (talk) 21:52, 11 May 2025 (UTC)
- If you can't follow, WP:CIR may apply. Either way WP:NPA absolutely does. - The Bushranger One ping only 22:19, 11 May 2025 (UTC)
- Hi dears, is that possible to remove my Wikipedia account? or if that is possible from your side, I will appreciate it in advance if you do that.Regards PayamAvarwand (talk) 22:02, 12 May 2025 (UTC)
- Wikipedia accounts can not be removed, as all edits must be attributed to someone, by law. There is a WP:VANISH option, but only for accounts in good standing. If you no longer wish to participate in any WMF projects, simply don't log in. CoffeeCrumbs (talk) 22:10, 12 May 2025 (UTC)
- I'm still active in both Wikimedia and in Persian Wikipedia. I mean removing the English Wiki profile! But I see, it's not that easy! Ok PayamAvarwand (talk) 22:24, 12 May 2025 (UTC)
- It's all the same account. Again, see [2]. PayamAvarwand on English Wikipedia, PayamAvarwand on Persian Wikipedia, PayamAvarwand on Farsi Wikipedia, PayamAvarwand on Kurdish Wikipedia (and so on) are all the same Wikimedia account. CoffeeCrumbs (talk) 00:22, 13 May 2025 (UTC)
- I'm still active in both Wikimedia and in Persian Wikipedia. I mean removing the English Wiki profile! But I see, it's not that easy! Ok PayamAvarwand (talk) 22:24, 12 May 2025 (UTC)
- Wikipedia accounts can not be removed, as all edits must be attributed to someone, by law. There is a WP:VANISH option, but only for accounts in good standing. If you no longer wish to participate in any WMF projects, simply don't log in. CoffeeCrumbs (talk) 22:10, 12 May 2025 (UTC)
- Hi dears, is that possible to remove my Wikipedia account? or if that is possible from your side, I will appreciate it in advance if you do that.Regards PayamAvarwand (talk) 22:02, 12 May 2025 (UTC)
- If you can't follow, WP:CIR may apply. Either way WP:NPA absolutely does. - The Bushranger One ping only 22:19, 11 May 2025 (UTC)
- Nobody is
- Note also I've redacted the IPv4 address above as personally identifying information. - The Bushranger One ping only 01:48, 11 May 2025 (UTC)
- Nobody
- Even given the fact the account was apparently not you evading your block (and thus I have struck the comment about lying, and apologise for that), the IP linked there absolutely was. - The Bushranger One ping only 22:35, 10 May 2025 (UTC)
- Was P.AvarwandArabianGulf checked as part of the SPI? It looked like the request was for the other accounts with this one basically assumed as a WP:DUCK and not formally listed in the SPI request. CoffeeCrumbs (talk) 09:09, 10 May 2025 (UTC)
- Please take a look at [here]!!!
- This user is trying to remove the PERSIAN GULF to ARABIAN GULF with a similar username as mine!!
- And exactly after some hours of our Changing-issues with the user @ Skitash in the Persian Gulf page!
- Is that enough to understand?! Why Should I change the official name of the Persian Gulf to something else?! PayamAvarwand (talk) 16:53, 10 May 2025 (UTC)
- Dear @The Bushranger,
- as an educated experienced person, I don't want to imagine that there is a mafia theory behind Wikipedia.
- If that is possible for you, I kindly ask you to check exactly if the fake account "P.AvarwandArabianGulf" was created and used by the same user behind the "Skitash"? And if it is, I will logically expect him to be blocked forever! Thank you in advance, Payam Avarwand PayamAvarwand (talk) 17:09, 10 May 2025 (UTC)
- Even if that other account was in fact not you, WP:NOTTHEM. Also WP:TINC. - The Bushranger One ping only 17:14, 10 May 2025 (UTC)
- First of all, please don't tell me "Even if that other account was in fact not you"! Because I was not that, and you are insulting me as matter of fact!
- Secondly, This WP:TINC is funny and sad! It is no matter for me, this is your platform and your credit.
- Could I ask you to stop this offensive Block status! PayamAvarwand (talk) 17:30, 10 May 2025 (UTC)
- You weren't blocked just for the potential socking. In fact you originally weren't blocked for it at all. You were blocked for edit-warring. And even leaving aside the possible socking issue, it's obvious from your comments here that the block has had no effect on your behavior - you clearly still believe you were 100% in the right. You weren't. In fact from your comments above it's clear you're doubling down on the content dispute that led to the original block. Until you realise this was a problem and agree to conduct yourself better with regards to it, the good of the encyclopedia requires that you remain blocked. - The Bushranger One ping only 22:30, 10 May 2025 (UTC)
- Even if that other account was in fact not you, WP:NOTTHEM. Also WP:TINC. - The Bushranger One ping only 17:14, 10 May 2025 (UTC)