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Notability for biographies

Regarding this edit, it would appear to me that it is you who does not know what "notability" means here on Wikipedia (which is something very different than in "real life"). To see what makes a person notable, please have a look at WP:BIO and WP:GNG (and the specialized guidelines linked from those two guidelines). Thanks. --Randykitty (talk) 09:36, 7 June 2013 (UTC)

Use some common sense: do you really think someone who has been a CEO of a billion-dollar company for six years isn't going to have enough media coverage to merit a WP entry? There's plenty of media mentions. It doesn't amount to a lot of biographical detail, but it's easily enough to justify an entry. Podiaebba (talk) 11:13, 7 June 2013 (UTC)

Then why, if it is so easy, do you wait with adding adequate sources until somebody tags the article for missing sources? Doing so from the start will save you (and other editors) a lot of trouble. --Randykitty (talk) 11:27, 7 June 2013 (UTC)

Well I thought it was enough, and Berat isn't a priority. I mostly at this point just wanted to record my finding out who his father is, showing that it's not the founder of the Albayrak Group but the journalist, but was hindered by there not being an entry yet. Podiaebba (talk) 11:36, 7 June 2013 (UTC)

Halk Tv

History section of Halk Tv article is entirely citing to a single source which is Today's Zaman, and you are still removing the single source tag. [1] Please do not remove the tag again. --84.211.119.140 (talk) 20:41, 7 June 2013 (UTC)

No, it has two sources - two different Today's Zaman articles. And if you want people to respect your tagging, try getting an account. Podiaebba (talk) 20:47, 7 June 2013 (UTC)

I couldn't see any second or third party source so it has a single source. Also I suggest you to read this essay. I've never heard that users should have an account to see respect. --84.211.119.140 (talk) 20:59, 7 June 2013 (UTC)

Given that you're now actively vandalising the page (removing sources, claiming "one source" when there's three), yeah, well done for proving the point that people who can't be bothered to make an account are "human too". Podiaebba (talk) 21:03, 7 June 2013 (UTC)

I did simply ask you to add second or third party resources to the section. Now I can see you did add them. Thank you for your efforts. But I do suggest you to be civil as it is a wikipedia policy and one of the five pillars.--84.211.119.140 (talk) 21:22, 7 June 2013 (UTC)

You were using the wrong tag, and wrongly saying it was a "single source", and... never mind, I guess we got there? Now why don't you show some civility by giving yourself a pseudonym? It's a bit rude to insist on talking to people without giving yourself any sort of label, I think. Podiaebba (talk) 21:31, 7 June 2013 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

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	Thanks for all your excellent articles on Turkey. You've been editing here for less than two weeks, but have already created dozens of well-written, referenced articles. Well done! Captain Conundrum (talk) 11:21, 11 June 2013 (UTC)

Thanks! I keep seeing "who or what is that?" situations arising from the Gezi protests, and when I figure it out, I want to write it down. Podiaebba (talk) 11:23, 11 June 2013 (UTC)

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2013 protests in Turkey

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OK. Podiaebba (talk) 12:15, 20 June 2013 (UTC)

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Reliable medical sources and Treatment/Counter-measures for Tear gas

Hello Podiaebba,

I fully appreciate the point you make in the edit summary [2]. But there is a real problem here. I don't know whether or not you're familiar with our requirements for use of reliable medical sources for any therapeutic claims. Since this content clearly falls into that category, I feel it can't really remain in the Treatment section. However, as I've argued on the talk page, I do feel it can reasonably be retained under "Counter-measures".

Please note that by reverting I don't wish to show any disrespect for editing (or spark an unwanted edit war). Regards, 81.157.7.7 (talk) 16:11, 24 June 2013 (UTC)

Thank you for your courteous message. I see your point about reliability of sources - but I don't see that putting the text in a different section makes any difference there - people are just as likely to try and rely on that info in that other section. The text should make clear the reliability of the sources, and then people have to make up their own minds. Or else we should remove it altogether. Podiaebba (talk) 16:58, 24 June 2013 (UTC)

Thank you for for the thoughtful replies. I'm really not sure. You might like to raise the question here: Wikipedia_talk:MED#Vinegar_and_tear_gas. Best, 81.157.7.7 (talk) 17:20, 24 June 2013 (UTC)

Dealing with opinionated IPs

Hi, just a friendly note. You may find it more productive to just ignore the IPs that rain down weird accusations. I know it is tempting to confront such blatant lies by them but that ends up derailing the discussion which ends up being unhelpful to the people trying to improve the article like you and me. -- A Certain White Cat ^chi? 15:27, 3 July 2013 (UTC)

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Yes, there are references there, but I haven't found any biographical detail from them - or even anything useful about his role in the coup. These things must exist, but I haven't been able to find them online. Podiaebba (talk) 08:19, 5 July 2013 (UTC)

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A brownie for you!

Thank yoU! Kadzi (talk) 12:12, 13 July 2013 (UTC)

Thanks! I'm about to have lunch though so I'll leave it for later... :) Podiaebba (talk) 12:16, 13 July 2013 (UTC)

DYK for Mehmet Baransu

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Hello. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Impact_of_the_Arab_Spring Should we provide a short summary of Gezi Park protests (protests in Turkey in 2013) to the Impact of the Arab Spring article. I think we should since Turkish protests which are also called Turkish summer, despite having different aims, seems to be compared to the Arab Spring. Besides, protests in the scope of Impact of the Arab Spring article have different aims (Occupy Wall Street is also not about toppling an Arab dictator.) Kavas (talk) 11:35, 14 July 2013 (UTC)

Hard to say where to draw the line with such things... many of the things in that article seem pretty tenuous. You could make a case too that the Gezi protests should be part of Impact of the French Revolution... I think I'd rather not get involved with that debate, thanks. Podiaebba (talk) 13:42, 14 July 2013 (UTC)

It was added by an IP editor, and wasn't debated. Cheers. Kavas (talk) 14:24, 14 July 2013 (UTC)

Fine by me. I'm just a bit skeptical of the whole thing. Podiaebba (talk) 14:32, 14 July 2013 (UTC)

Reyhanlı in the Context of Gezi

I don't know whether you checked the talk page or not, but I found a reference where Erdogan's connecting Reyhanlı to Gezi. I think it's more appropriate to add it on the article text than the reference of May 18. See http://wap.milliyet.com.tr/News/NewsArticle.aspx?ID=1735943 Kavas (talk) 20:05, 16 July 2013 (UTC)

Sure, OK. Feel free to add it, there's no harm in having both. Podiaebba (talk) 20:09, 16 July 2013 (UTC)

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Bayar's government

Hi, The start and dates of the 9th government in the List of Governments of Turkey seems to be reversed. (I was warned by E4024) Nedim Ardoğa (talk) 10:53, 2 August 2013 (UTC)

yes, of course. (The list came from another WP article, I didn't check the details.) Fixed 9th government dates, though they should really all be properly sourced. Podiaebba (talk) 11:35, 2 August 2013 (UTC)

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OK, so... if he breaches 1RR again, what should I do? You've given him this info message as well... Podiaebba (talk) 20:29, 12 September 2013 (UTC)

A bowl of strawberries for you!

The local variety that grow where I live are delicious. Anyways, I just wanted to assure you that I meant the sarcasm callout lightly - I do indeed agree that it seems a little pedantic at this point. Kind regards! VQuakr (talk) 07:40, 18 September 2013 (UTC)

Yummy, thanks. :) Podiaebba (talk) 07:51, 18 September 2013 (UTC)

Mint Press News article and "Shia advocacy"

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September 2013

Welcome to Wikipedia. At least one of your recent edits, such as the edit you made to Ghouta chemical attacks, did not appear to be constructive and has been reverted or removed. Although everyone is welcome to contribute to Wikipedia, please take some time to familiarise yourself with our policies and guidelines. You can find information about these at the welcome page which also provides further information about contributing constructively to this encyclopedia. If you only meant to make some test edits, please use the sandbox for that. Thank you. You know you are better than this. But in any case, please review WP:POINT. VQuakr (talk) 04:01, 21 September 2013 (UTC)

Yeah. Sorry. 5am editing with no sleep due to little one and growing frustration. :( Podiaebba (talk) 11:25, 21 September 2013 (UTC)

What's the usual thing to do when an editor is obviously too impassioned about the issue to remain completely objective? Do you want to take a voluntary break from editing the Syrian articles for a while, if your judgement is impaired? If not, what is the usual remedy for this situation? Rolf H Nelson (talk) 03:38, 22 October 2013 (UTC)

That was a month ago, in specific circumstances, and more generally I've become somewhat disillusioned and reduced my involvement in the subject, particularly editing rather than commenting, and giving up on WP:NPOV being achieved on certain articles. This is partly due to people like you being so insistent on censoring or downplaying clearly relevant and significant information from mainstream people. What is the "usual remedy" for tackling such bias, one might ask? Well we can only try to achieve compromise through discussion, and generally more information, even if leading to more and larger articles, makes compromise easier to achieve. Think about that. Podiaebba (talk) 12:18, 22 October 2013 (UTC)

There is currently a discussion at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. Thank you.

I'm sorry to hear that I'm somehow to blame for your vandalism. Since we can't see eye-to-eye, we'll let the admins decide if there's a solution. On the plus side, whether the admins take action or not, you'll no longer have this incident hanging over your head and can hopefully clear your head and resume editing with a clean slate. As far as WP:NPOV, I'm a big fan of bringing in uninvolved 3rd parties to help resolve disputes. Rolf H Nelson (talk) 03:44, 24 October 2013 (UTC)

I took the rather unusual step of closing this section at ANI. If I hadn't, someone else would have. Rolf, dredging up a month-old mistake and bringing it to ANI is the complete opposite of what is needed here. If this is a symptom of something else at play, maybe a content dispute on another Syria-related article, may I suggest mediation? I would be a poor choice of mediator given my level of involvement on Syria articles, but I could ask around for an uninvolved experienced editor if you are both interested. Either way, best of luck to both of you, and let's bring this particular chapter to a close, ok? VQuakr (talk) 04:38, 24 October 2013 (UTC)

Mediation sounds good to me; I've suggested it before to Podiaebba. Rolf H Nelson (talk) 04:50, 24 October 2013 (UTC)

Yeni Safak

You could not remove all section. If the expression is not ok, just modify it and avoid blanking. Because your part is misleading and lacks context. Egeymi (talk) 19:51, 22 September 2013 (UTC)

Hope you are are aware of 3R rule in the WP and of not being partisan rule.Egeymi (talk) 19:52, 22 September 2013 (UTC)

Hope you are aware of WP:AGF. NB I added the interview issue to the article in the first place. (And feel free to check my contributions on Gezi protests article if you still think I'm a fan of Yeni Safak.) Podiaebba (talk) 19:54, 22 September 2013 (UTC)

Removing an unnecessary heading you added is not removing a section. Your version declaring the interview "fake" is misleading. As for "context" - what context? You didn't provide any, and I've no idea what you mean. Podiaebba (talk) 19:54, 22 September 2013 (UTC)

Your part just focuses on excuse of the daily without mentioning the incident. Egeymi (talk) 19:55, 22 September 2013 (UTC)

The heading shows the incident, not unnecessary. Egeymi (talk) 19:58, 22 September 2013 (UTC)

"Controversy" sections are generally bad. As a heading for 1 or 2 sentence single incident, it's just silly. Podiaebba (talk) 20:00, 22 September 2013 (UTC)

What excuse? There is none. It mentions the apology, and what was apologised for. More detail could be given, but you've not tried to do that - only to convey the misleading impression that the entire interview was invented or faked, rather than some key sentences attributed to Chomsky that he didn't say. Podiaebba (talk) 20:00, 22 September 2013 (UTC)

You should read carefully WP:AGF after your last edit summary. Egeymi (talk) 20:02, 22 September 2013 (UTC)

""Controversy" sections are generally bad."" What???? If there is any controversy then it is called "controversy" and it was 100% controversial incident whether or not you accept. Egeymi (talk) 20:06, 22 September 2013 (UTC)

Controversy sections are generally bad, yes; see Wikipedia:Controversy sections. "Controversy" is a fairly meaningless tabloidy word anyway, but "controversial" incidents should normally be integrated into the article, eg in a history section. In this case, the article is so short it really doesn't need any additional headings whatsoever. Feel free to add enough material that headings start becoming useful. Podiaebba (talk) 08:04, 23 September 2013 (UTC)

You could not say "just silly". Saying it is generally bad. You are very rude.Egeymi (talk) 20:10, 22 September 2013 (UTC)

With all due respect, your English is fairly good but it's clearly not your first language: calling a thing "silly" is a whole lot less rude than claiming that a person is "very rude". Now if you want to continue discussing the Yeni Safak interview, I suggest you take it to the article talk page. Podiaebba (talk) 08:04, 23 September 2013 (UTC)

Ghouta hat note question

Is there any particular reason you undid my collapse of the spam section on the Ghouta article? VQuakr (talk) 17:51, 25 September 2013 (UTC)

Well, firstly, because I was talking to the person. Secondly, it wasn't spam, it was an attempt to engage and further the quality of the article by raising some issues, which can be looked out for from usable sources. Thirdly, collapsing was unnecessary and appears rude. Podiaebba (talk) 18:03, 25 September 2013 (UTC)

It is a single-purpose account promoting their own blog. If you want to talk about similar changes using valid sources, you can start a new section with an appropriate heading. If you want to "talk to the person", they have a user talk page. Collapsing is SOP for "distraction" threads like that one. VQuakr (talk) 18:13, 25 September 2013 (UTC)

The alternative to refactoring those comments of yours which are soapboxing or pointy is to seek sanctions against you. If that is your preference I can do that, but I would prefer if you would instead just start editing Wikipedia in a manner consistent with policy. I re-removed your talk page post since it is clearly a violation of WP:POINT. VQuakr (talk) 01:09, 26 September 2013 (UTC)

You still haven't acknowledged that WP:SPAM doesn't cover it, that your hatting was entirely unnecessary and rude. Your repeated deletion of my comment explaining this is the icing on the cake. Please do flag down a passing policeman - I wouldn't want to turn an unnecessary drama into an unnecessary crisis, but it's up to you if you'd like to continue creating new problems where none exist. I question though whether you really don't have anything better to do. Podiaebba (talk) 01:18, 26 September 2013 (UTC)

When a SPA comes to an article talk page promoting their own blog, it is spam. I can change the hat note to "WP:SPAM/WP:IAR" if it makes you happy. Your meta-argument in the talk page violates WP:TPG and is itself rude. You have repeatedly gotten upset editing this article and violated WP:POINT, including your recent talk page edit that I reverted, where you take over the spamming for the SPA to make some point (not quite sure what, but I am sure you had something in your mind that you hoped to accomplish). Obviously, you would not have objected if the POV of the blog did not happen to match the POV that you are attempting to push. I am tired of the silly tantrums you throw when you find out that we actually are going to follow policy instead of doing whatever you want and frustrated that you can't simmer down and actually contribute. At your best you add a lot of value to the editing team on that article, but in the last couple of days you have seldom been at your best. VQuakr (talk) 01:32, 26 September 2013 (UTC)

So you admit that you need to reach for WP:IAR in order to slap down someone who gives every appearance of coming in good faith to help improve the article? But I'm the one at fault when I reject your attempt to abuse policy to do so. Sure. And then you have the audacity of coming to my talk page and telling me Obviously, you would not have objected if the POV of the blog did not happen to match the POV that you are attempting to push.? Accusing me of both hypocrisy and POV-pushing in one sentence? Very nice. I seriously thought you were one of the reasonable ones. NB In an attempt to write a neutral article about X, a neutral person working with a bunch of people desperately pushing position A may appear to be pushing position B in a genuine effort to defend neutrality. That is the position I feel I'm in, and I'm not happy about it. Podiaebba (talk) 06:27, 26 September 2013 (UTC)

No, your reply on the article talk page only quoted the first sentence of WP:SPAM there was no "abuse of policy." Someone who names their account after the blog they are promoting is not here to edit in good faith. If you want to quit feeling like an unfortunate victim, you could start by easing up on the diva attitude and the pointy edits. VQuakr (talk) 06:56, 26 September 2013 (UTC)

You abused WP:SPAM by claiming it justified your view and action on that section. It did not and does not. Someone who names their account after the blog they are promoting is not here to edit in good faith. - you're making generic statements which sound reasonable in isolation but do not fit the situation. The blog is specific to that page's topic; there was no attempt to push the blog into the article; and the editor only edited one single talk page, talking about deficiencies in the article. WP:AGF should apply, and (to spin your allegation of hypocrisy round at you) I rather think you'd be more willing to apply it if the blog were favourable to the mainstream position. Podiaebba (talk) 07:01, 26 September 2013 (UTC)

It did and does. See? My unsupported assertions are just as valid as yours, only less silly. I find it difficult to believe that you read the guideline and came away with the impression that the one-sentence lede was the most applicable part of the document to this situation. The article is semi-protected. They were not technically capable of editing the article, so their not doing so is not a show of their good faith. If any author came to any article and attempted to promote their own writing, I would rightly be annoyed. That behavior is asinine in any context, not just on Wikipedia. If you would have been ok with a "pro-western" blogger doing the exact same thing, than I agree that that implies good things for your POV but bad things for your judgement as to what is acceptable behavior.

As an aside, notice how we are not on an article talk page and I am willing to discuss meta-content like this? Maybe you could ponder that for a moment and consider if it is a clue as to why I object to your repeated injection of meta-discussion into the article talk page? VQuakr (talk) 07:44, 26 September 2013 (UTC)

I quoted from WP:SPAM, and you've yet to suggest which part of WP:SPAM supports your views and actions. I'm mystified why you are so unwilling to extend WP:AGF to someone engaging in constructive discussion, or why you think it's acceptable to repeatedly delete my comments from the article talk page. I'm even more mystified why we've wasted such a large amount of time and effort talking about this. I'm sure we both have better things to do. The situation is unlikely to recur so it's not like we need to agree on how to handle it if it does. Podiaebba (talk) 11:48, 26 September 2013 (UTC)

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Hi. I see you added Assistant United States Attorney‎ to Category:Assistant United States Attorneys. This seems wrong — the category is a list of people who are AUSA's. And the AUSA page is not a person (in fact, it's also not really a page). Do I misinterpret your intention? Thanks. jhawkinson (talk) 03:25, 30 September 2013 (UTC)

Well I've seen it done before that the defining page is part of the category it defines. And it was meant as a sort of reminder that it really needs its own definition. If you still want to remove it from the category, I don't mind. Podiaebba (talk) 06:42, 30 September 2013 (UTC)

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If you think the New Scientist wind direction is demonstrably wrong (and you could be right for all I know; as I said, unlike you I regard this as WP:OR and thus am not personally interested in examining the claim in depth), have you thought about also writing to New Scientist and/or Guthrie? If your case is strong, it's possible NS will print your letter, or retract the claim, or at least think twice about using Guthrie as an expert quote next time. And, of course, you could raise the issue by contacting other media sources as well. Also, if you're relying on wunderground, you might want to make sure the page is web-archived in case wunderground ever decides to stop bothering to provide historical data. Rolf H Nelson (talk) 21:39, 26 October 2013 (UTC)

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Their United States (and polar and oceanic) data is. To my knowledge NOAA does not operate stations within other nations' borders. I agree that New Scientist issuing a clarification or retraction would be ideal in terms of coming to an agreement here; thanks for taking the initiative Podiaebba. VQuakr (talk) 19:40, 27 October 2013 (UTC)

Sam Adams Award

Hi. This discussion seems to have languished. Last week, in response to one of my comments, we ended up getting side tracked about my motives and what to do with statements that might not be supported by reliable sources. Now that that's resolved, do you have a response to the arguments on reliability I included in the same comment? If so perhaps we get things started again and move closer to resolution? --Dr. Fleischman (talk) 20:41, 28 October 2013 (UTC)

I don't really know what you want to happen next. As far as I'm concerned, the sources are quite adequate for their very limited purpose, and leaving the list unsourced is unambiguously worse than using these sources. Podiaebba (talk) 21:19, 28 October 2013 (UTC)

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