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Thank you

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Thank you so much for your kind words. --A.S. Brown (talk) 15:19, 15 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

DYK for Masonjoany

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On 20 August 2023, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Masonjoany, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that women in Madagascar paint their faces with masonjoany (example pictured) as a form of decorative sun protection? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Masonjoany. You are welcome to check how many pageviews the nominated article or articles got while on the front page (here's how, Masonjoany), and the hook may be added to the statistics page after its run on the Main Page has completed. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

BorgQueen (talk) 00:02, 20 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

DYK for Akazehe

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On 28 November 2023, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Akazehe, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that rural women in Burundi greet each other with an intricate musical ritual called akazehe? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Akazehe. You are welcome to check how many pageviews the nominated article or articles got while on the front page (here's how, Akazehe), and the hook may be added to the statistics page after its run on the Main Page has completed. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

Z1720 (talk) 00:02, 28 November 2023 (UTC) [reply]

November songs
today · music

Thank you for a lovely article about an unusual topic! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 11:31, 28 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you very much! Zanahary (talk) 13:54, 28 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
I was about to say the same thing! Rarely see content from Burundi on here! Would love to see your work up at Wikipedia:WikiProject Africa/The 10,000 Challenge! ♦ Dr. Blofeld 18:34, 28 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you very much! I've added my contributions to the challenge list and will continue to do so as I edit and write. Zanahary (talk) 02:08, 29 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

DYK for Kangina

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On 17 December 2023, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Kangina, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that rural Afghans keep fresh grapes in mud? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Kangina. You are welcome to check how many pageviews the nominated article or articles got while on the front page (here's how, Kangina), and the hook may be added to the statistics page after its run on the Main Page has completed. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

Z1720 (talk) 00:02, 17 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

An apology

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By the way, I apologize for assuming bad faith at your MfD for No Nazis. I hadn't seen your final response to me until just now (looking for the link where I'd assumed bad faith) and I have to say that your response was warranted. I was being glib and unfriendly. Having dealt with a mountain of trolls is no excuse. You clearly have a lot to offer the encyclopedia and I hope you continue to play an active role –– even if (or rather especially because) we don't always agree. Generalrelative (talk) 03:27, 18 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks Generalrelative, I appreciate that very much. Thank you for your kind words. Zanahary (talk) 03:53, 18 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Z1720 (talk) 00:02, 3 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

How did you manage to do this? Look for the second 'bark'. Shenme (talk) 01:18, 3 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Hahaha I have no idea! Thanks for catching it. Zanahary (talk) 01:21, 3 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

OMG

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Savika is incredible. Thank you for creating. jengod (talk) 04:48, 8 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Jengod, thank you so much! I’m really proud of it. How did you find it? I’ll ping you when it’s updated with a great new source I found about the varieties of zebu game played by Betsileo children at different stages of development. Zanahary (talk) 04:53, 8 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
1. I found it through through the best general-interest magazine on earth, which I check daily for updates, User:AlexNewArtBot/GoodSearchResult
2. I am extremely excited to learn about the zebu-child pairs/tiers. This sounds epic. jengod (talk) 05:51, 8 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
1. Cool! I'll have to look through there.
2. Ping @Jengod! It's ready. Zanahary (talk) 03:04, 9 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
"rizicultural mud-trampling" is definitely key, says me, a lady who learned about this whole thing 24 hours ago LOL. I love the panoramic image and placement as well. Such a valuable addition to the site/sum of all human knowledge/etc. Bravo you. jengod (talk) 05:22, 9 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks so much for your kind words and support @Jengod! If you want to take up the Good Article nomination...👀
You may also enjoy Jews in Madagascar, Akazehe, and the table of time-terms (scroll to the second table in the Vocabulary section) here! Zanahary (talk) 01:29, 10 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Zanahary I don't do articles reviews except rare DYK QPQs but I know you'll pass flying colors jengod (talk) 01:42, 10 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Hey @Jengod, I passed! My first GA :) thanks again for your kind words. You might like what I’m up to now at Sikidy. Zanahary (talk) 07:56, 1 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Your GA nomination of Savika

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EVERYBODY SAY YEAAAAAAAHHHH
Thanks so much for your collaboration Sawyer777! Zanahary (talk) 03:56, 4 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Iblis

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Greetings, you recently mentioned that you would like to make the GA review. On the talkpage you can find the current reviwer stating that the review will take some time, about 1-2 weeks due to unexpected real-life demands. I originally agreed to wait for 2-3 weeks, but now a month has passed. Maybe, if you make a request on the Talkpage (make sure to check the formalities), you could take over the review. But please note, that it might take some time, since I myself am currently checkign Wikipedia infrequently with best regards VenusFeuerFalle (talk) 15:21, 5 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hi @VenusFeuerFalle! I can't currently take on a GAR, as I am focused on reviewing Kartikeya and improving Sikidy, but if Iblis's review hasn't resumed by the time I am prepared to take on a new review project, I will take it! ꧁Zanahary05:51, 12 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

A "News media in Madagascar" article

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Howdy! So a little bit ago I started a draft about Malagasy news - User:Generalissima/News media in Madagascar - and while I was able to find good information about history, I've struggled to find good sources about contemporary situation. Since you have a lot of experience with writing about Madagascar-related topics, I thought I might consult your help. I think there might very well be sources I just wasn't able to find here, and I think there might be a number that are simply in French or Malagasy. Thank you very much for your time and your good work on-wiki! Generalissima (talk) (it/she) 17:30, 5 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Generalissima I’m so flattered to be asked! Your draft is excellent—thank you for writing this! I’ll take a look and see what I can find. Zanahary (talk) 17:35, 8 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Zanahary: Hi! I just wanted to check if this was still something you wanted to work on together :) Generalissima (talk) (it/she) 20:40, 9 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Salut Generalissima! I loaded the Talk page with sources last month—I'm currently in the process of moving, but when I free up again I'd be happy to work on adding prose to the article. Zanahary 22:04, 9 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hi, can I just clarify what you mean by missing many countries? Alexanderkowal (talk) 10:48, 8 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Btw I see you're interested in Madagascan history, do you know of any good resources for a general history? Tbf I'm impressed by History of Madagascar Alexanderkowal (talk) 10:51, 8 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Yes! A great overview is Stephen Ellis and Solofo Randrianja’s Madagascar: A Short History. Zanahary (talk) 17:12, 8 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you, I'll try to remember to let you know when I've done the draft to their section which might be in a month or so Alexanderkowal (talk) 17:16, 8 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Great! Do let me know; I can contribute. Zanahary (talk) 17:17, 8 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Okay will do, thank you, I read the General History of Africa and the Madagascan history was dreadfully done, my only critique with Wikipedia's history is that the kingdoms on Madagascar don't have their own pages as far as I know Alexanderkowal (talk) 17:19, 8 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
It’s crazy! The Betsileo and Sakalava kingdoms are both on my to-do for creating articles. Zanahary (talk) 17:23, 8 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
That's great, thank you, when you do make them please add them to List of kingdoms in Africa throughout history as it's missing loads of Madagascan ones Alexanderkowal (talk) 17:26, 8 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Will do! (And btw, the word is Malagasy—“Madagascan” is still used only in biology, e.g. “Four newly-discovered Madagascan fishes” Zanahary (talk) 17:30, 8 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Are you interested in oral tradition? I've just bought Jan Vansina's book and want to add loads to the page, do you know of any Madagascan traditions that have wikipedia pages? Alexanderkowal (talk) 17:30, 8 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I am! Check out Ibonia (especially the How to Read a Folktale source), the "Malagasy Secret" section of Jews in Madagascar and Hainteny.
It’s (I think) an unusually complex society in terms of richness of beliefs, oral mythology, ritual practice and the assignment of ritual roles in everyday life. Maybe the origin myths recounted on Savika will interest you too. Zanahary (talk) 17:34, 8 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
thank you, I'm just amazed by how much depth they have, the traditions of the Ghana Empire are thought to have content from prehistory although much has been lost, I try to also talk about the oral traditions when writing African history Alexanderkowal (talk) 18:30, 8 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
You might be interested in the Kingdom of Simien and Gudit Alexanderkowal (talk) 18:36, 8 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Just that it’s got lots of sections for countries within eras that say “this section is being written”, which is too unfinished for B-class Zanahary (talk) 17:11, 8 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
That's fair, honestly I'd put it lower lol Alexanderkowal (talk) 17:15, 8 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Haha yeah it could also be Start-class. I put my own article Split of Christianity and Judaism, which is similarly full of holes, as a Start. Zanahary (talk) 17:16, 8 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I'll put it as start as it is very much under construction Alexanderkowal (talk) 17:16, 8 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I think I'm gonna do the Swahili coast and Madagascar next, is it alright if I write a bit and do the base for the narrative and then send it over for input? Alexanderkowal (talk) 10:18, 25 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
For sure! Zanahary 12:52, 25 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Hi, bit niche but I'm having some trouble with discerning when and how Zebu were introduced. I've seen some say Tamil merchants, some say the first wave of Bantu migrants c. 1000, some say they were imported from South India Kowal2701 (talk) 16:31, 7 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Kowal2701 I believe they were brought by Bantus—I remember reading something when researching for Savika about it. But if there seems to be a variety of theories, without an apparent best source giving a definitive one (or if it’s not clear that it’s a development in scholarship, e.g. the Tamil theory isn’t presented in newer sources), then you should describe the various theories. Zanahary 16:40, 7 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Some definitive sources: https://academic.oup.com/g3journal/article/12/4/jkac029/6523972
https://oxfordre.com/africanhistory/display/10.1093/acrefore/9780190277734.001.0001/acrefore-9780190277734-e-795
https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/abs/10.1080/00672700709480451 Zanahary 16:45, 7 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

DYK for Sikidy

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RoySmith (talk) 00:03, 9 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hey!

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Nice meeting you at the Wiknic today! Saw the Madagascar fact in DYK and knew it had to be you. Keep up the great work! BanjoZebra (talk) 01:50, 9 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

It was great to meet you too! Thanks very much, and I hope I see you soon at another WM NYC event. I think I'll be going to them regularly. Zanahary (talk) 05:32, 9 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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A beer for you!

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Hey, hope you are doing well. Thank you for contributions! Youknowwhoistheman (talk) 14:32, 17 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks so much Youknowwhoistheman! Zanahary 03:21, 18 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

DYK for L'Aube rouge (novel)

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DYK for Giado concentration camp

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Thank you for your work on this interesting topic. —  AjaxSmack  02:54, 15 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks @AjaxSmack! Zanahary 03:22, 15 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Madagascar history

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Hi, this is what I've got so far, are there any changes you'd make or anything that you would like to add? User:Kowal2701/sandbox/History of Africa: East Africa#Swahili coast, Madagascar, and the Comoro Islands Kowal2701 (talk) 18:04, 16 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The next section from 1500-1870 is going to be Madagascar's time to shine, I've tried to give the Swahili coast primacy here prior to Portuguese conquest Kowal2701 (talk) 18:15, 16 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Zanahary Hi, just pinging in case you missed this, no worries if you're not interested Kowal2701 (talk) 21:31, 18 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Hi @Kowal2701! I am definitely interested, but I am very overloaded with real life stuff right now. If you have any specific inquiries, I would be happy to do my best to help, but I can't do a broader review right now. Zanahary 08:33, 19 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
That’s completely fine, don’t worry, I’m going to add it to the page now but I’m not happy with the Madagascar paragraph. I wanted to do a few sentences giving a cursory view of the antecedents of the groups but couldn’t find the information Kowal2701 (talk) 12:13, 19 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Btw, there definitely should be an article on Darafify imo, even if it is just a stub Kowal2701 (talk) 23:13, 19 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I totally agree! Zanahary 23:14, 19 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I know you've got a lot on your plate, but would you be interested in joining a wikiproject on oral tradition? Kowal2701 (talk) 17:33, 24 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Absolutely! Zanahary 19:49, 24 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Do you know of anyone else that might be interested? I have 5 at the moment, 6 is recommended Kowal2701 (talk) 19:57, 24 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Maybe try notifying a bunch of wikiprojects relating to sociology, anthropology, mythology, folk tradition, and specific groups like Native Americans, Aboriginal Australians, and other large ethnic wikiprojects like China and Iran? Zanahary 16:10, 25 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Good idea, I'm currently notifying active editors who have created/contributed to oral tradition articles. It's more likely it's going to be a sub project to WP:Anthropology rather than an independent one Kowal2701 (talk) 16:14, 25 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I think it’s a fantastic idea! Zanahary 16:15, 25 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Yeah I'm excited about it, I'd like to have some useful sources for people intrigued but not familiar, Jan Vansina's Oral tradition as history seems like a good recommendation. I 'd also like to tag different articles to different regions, as I imagine a lot of people would just be interested in a particular region Kowal2701 (talk) 16:19, 25 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I've sent Lemurbaby an email in a vain hope Kowal2701 (talk) 19:03, 4 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Hah, I emailed her earlier this year. I hope she returns to us. Zanahary 19:04, 4 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
She probably did leave for a reason, but man she's done some amazing work, every Malagasy ethnic group article was practically written by her Kowal2701 (talk) 19:08, 4 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Your GA nomination of Sikidy

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DYK for Microhodotermes viator

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On 19 July 2024, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Microhodotermes viator, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that scientists tested the age of an African termite's inhabited mound—and found it to be 34,000 years old? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Microhodotermes viator. You are welcome to check how many pageviews the nominated article or articles got while on the front page (here's how, Microhodotermes viator), and the hook may be added to the statistics page after its run on the Main Page has completed. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

Complex/Rational 00:04, 19 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

DYK for Buq Buq labor camp

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On 28 July 2024, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Buq Buq labor camp, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that after being freed from Buq Buq labor camp in Italian-occupied Egypt, Libyan Jewish prisoners had to walk home across the desert? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Buq Buq labor camp. You are welcome to check how many pageviews the nominated article or articles got while on the front page (here's how, Buq Buq labor camp), and the hook may be added to the statistics page after its run on the Main Page has completed. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

PMC(talk) 00:03, 28 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Are you able to comment

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Are you able to comment on Talk:Lakana#Complete work of fiction? It may be that this is an article that should be put up for deletion, so if that is wrong, I really need to find other editors who will say so. Also, if there are RSs out there for an article on the traditional watercraft of Madagascar (I don't seem to be able to find any), I think that would be an interesting article.

Not a problem if this is not one for you, but thanks if you can help. ThoughtIdRetired TIR 21:26, 6 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Disputing your moves

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Hi @Zanahary: I have started a discussion disputing your moves at History of the Jews in Madagascar, History of the Jews in Taiwan, History of the Jews in Hong Kong at Wikipedia:Requested moves/Technical requests#Contested technical requests. Thank you, IZAK (talk) 21:04, 31 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]