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Plans to get rid of more than a thousand articles about cricketers

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I'm sure most of you remember the WP:LUGSTUBS2 discussions. Some editors are trying to move forward with mass removal. One of them has produced lists of cricketers split by nationality on the village pump. Please take a look at these and try to add at least one non-database-type source to each of the listed articles. WhatamIdoing (talk) 02:36, 12 May 2025 (UTC)

Of the articles with the template Special draft pending, five are categorised as international cricketers so should be easy to source - Chandi Wickramasinghe Ankur Vasishta, Collette McGuiness, Champa Sugathadasa and Bilal Shah. Hack (talk) 03:09, 12 May 2025 (UTC)

I've worked through the list of 50 British cricketers. Several have already had sourcing added, and there are some that strike me as definite possibilities if anyone has the time or inclination (mainly Essex, Gloucestershire, and Surrey):

• David Gray (cricketer) – redirect to List of Cambridge University Cricket Club players#G for now. There's brief text at CricInfo and an obituary in 2004 Wisden, albeit brief. I imagine a suitably detailed search would probably find more on him (war service, Winchester, Cambridge). I imagine this could be extended
• Arthur Johnston (cricketer) – a candidate for expansion. Played rugby at a high level and there's a prose paragraph in CricInfo already. I suspect sources could be found. Initially I might redirect to List of Essex County Cricket Club players#J as he played the majority of his cricket for Essex
• Alison White (cricketer) – redirect to List of Gloucestershire County Cricket Club players#W initially. Notes say he won the DSO in 1916 and went to Cheltenham and Cambridge. Seems to have later been known as Gordon-White. Born at Sydney NSW. Seems likely that there's more detail here
• Charles Edwards (English cricketer) – certainly has the potential for development. Brief Wisden obit, but he was a colonel in the RASC, MC in 1917 and DSO in 1919. Went to Cheltenham. Born in South Africa. We could initially redirect to List of Gloucestershire County Cricket Club players#E, but this is certainly ripe for expansion
• Arthur Newnham – also played in India and for the Gentlemen. There's quite a detailed obit at Wisden. Army, lt-col, serving mainly abroad. Captained Malvern, so chances are more sources exist. We could redirect to List of Gloucestershire County Cricket Club players#N initially, but I'm fairly certain more sources exist
• Charles Morgan (Surrey cricketer) – quite a detailed Wisden obit and the chances are there will be others. We could redirect in the short term, but I imagine there is enough to develop the article. The redirect would be to List of Surrey County Cricket Club players#M
• Alfred Bashford – the prose at CricInfo suggests that more will be found here – church, Merchant Taylors, hockey, Cambridge etc... CricketArchive adds some detail and there's a brief Wisden obit. We could redirect to List of Middlesex County Cricket Club players#B in the short term, but there are almost certainly sources here
• Barrie Bennett – redirect to List of Cambridge University Cricket Club players#B. Seems to have been in the army so there may be more here
• Cecil Booth (cricketer) – redirect to List of Cambridge University Cricket Club players#B. Played for Surrey Second XI and presumably there will be war service, but nothing obviously stands out
• Charles Brereton (cricketer) – redirect to List of Cambridge University Cricket Club players#B. Was at Marlborough and the name is one of those that crops up in Norfolk sources, so there may well be something there
• Charles Calvert (Cambridge University cricketer) – redirect to List of Cambridge University Cricket Club players#C. Captained Shrewsbury, so there would well be some more to be found
• Alexander Cox (cricketer) – redirect to List of Cambridge University Cricket Club players#C probably. His brief Wisden obit says he was a "well known racehorse owner" so, given when he was alive, there may well be enough sources. Was at Harrow

This is copied from Wikipedia talk:Lugstubs 2 list. I've already gone through a lot of New Zealanders, and I think every Australian is a least a redirect Blue Square Thing (talk) 09:36, 13 May 2025 (UTC)

• For all the ones that have plausible redirects to team list articles, it makes so much more sense to redirect them rather than draftify them, as an WP:ATD. Joseph2302 (talk) 10:11, 13 May 2025 (UTC)

• Yes. This was mentioned several times in the original discussion I think. The alternative seems to be that it's moved to draft, I move it back - duplicating the article as the draft is not deleted -, and then redirect the article. Which seems a tonne of work. Redirect is what would almost certainly happen at an AfD I think Blue Square Thing (talk) 15:01, 13 May 2025 (UTC)

Not sure how helpful it is to have the lists at the Village Pump. Should there be a WP:Cric subpage for this? Also isn't very useful to have them in very long lists of 170 players. Did someone already clear letters E onwards? Anyway, here is the Australian list broken down into players by state, which could be useful if we are to just redirect them to the state by state lists of cricketers. The-Pope (talk) 17:12, 13 May 2025 (UTC)

Thanks for breaking the Australians down – that's really helpful. The British list is at Wikipedia talk:Lugstubs 2 list#British list. I'm currently working through the New Zealanders at User:Blue Square Thing/sandbox3#NZ – have 5 Wellingtonians, 16 Canterburians and an odd one to check for sources for. If anyone wants to take a look the list is there and I'll move it across to Wikipedia talk:Lugstubs 2 list when I'm done in a few weeks. Zimbabwe is a short list...

I think a limit of 1200 was set and the query used worked by first name, so that's why it only gets part way through D. I imagine the plan was to polish those off quickly and then do a lot more in the second tranche. This followed on from WP:LUGSTUBS which considered nearly 1000 Olympians. I've no idea how many of those were brought back into mainspace Blue Square Thing (talk) 19:03, 13 May 2025 (UTC)

Not sure about redirecting ones that have potential, like the colonel above. Then they become invisible and never get expanded :( AA (talk) 12:17, 22 May 2025 (UTC)

If we just started by redirecting the ones that BST has identified as being (apparently) hopeless, that would help a lot. WhatamIdoing (talk) 16:22, 22 May 2025 (UTC)

If you can throw a couple of references on to his article it'll help remove the tag rather than redirect. He's one I might get to once the majority of the redirection is done. The list, of course, will be there so can be revisited at any point Blue Square Thing (talk) 13:42, 25 May 2025 (UTC)

As a heads up, we've now got a date of 23 June 2025 for draftification to begin - assuming anyone can figure out an automatic way of doing so. There's a set of instructions at Wikipedia talk:Lugstubs 2 list#2025 procedure for how manage any redirects and ones where the template needs to be removed. There are lists by country with generally my recommendation at the same place. I should think I'll get to everything other than the Indians and Sri Lankans by that deadline (here are just too many from India and Sri Lanka for me to deal with easily). Blue Square Thing (talk) 13:42, 25 May 2025 (UTC)

I see that Blue Square Thing has started redirecting the Australian players to the state by state lists. Can I ask, to avoid them "becoming invisible", can the state category (ie Category:Victoria cricketers be left on the redirect page? I know it works, and I think it's allowed by the WP:LISTRCAT guideline. The-Pope (talk) 11:53, 2 June 2025 (UTC)

Yes, I'd like to add them back in, but I'm really concerned that I'm not going to have enough time to get to all of the articles that need to be redirected. My priority at this stage is to do the redirect quickly and then to try to find the opportunity to come back to them once I get the chance. I really appreciate that this is leaving work for other people to clean up, but the alternative is that we lose all these articles to a draft space limbo. I've probably got one or two days before the deadline that I can give even part of to this Blue Square Thing (talk) 12:30, 2 June 2025 (UTC)

A status report. NZ, Australian, South Africans (with cats - sorry, it was just as easy), Zimbabweans, and the odds and sods all done. British ones that need to be kept have had tags removed, but I'm leaving the others until last. I imagine that it'd be possible for two or three of those to be worked up to DYK level if someone could send a couple of hours on them. I might try and do that for one, but it would be an interesting experiment.

I've PRODed seven I think – ones that I don't think we'd be looking to keep these days and can't easily find suitable sources for. Keep an eye on the PROD list and feel free to remove if you think they're worthwhile, but I'm not sure it's worth sending these to draft really

This leaves: Pakistan, Bangladesh, Barbados, Guyana, Jamaica, Trinidad. I have redirect targets set up where needed – all the West Indians and a few of the others. Then it's India, which someone has done a few of, and Sri Lanka. I really don't think I'll get to those lists in any sensible way. Blue Square Thing (talk) 10:45, 3 June 2025 (UTC)

I think it's good to leave cats on the redirects. WhatamIdoing (talk) 17:51, 3 June 2025 (UTC)

Update: All but the British, Indians, and Sri Lankans are done. I know what's probably happening to the British articles, so my calculation is that of the 805 articles that have been dealt with (excluding Indians and Sri Lankans), 695 have been redirected to a list of some kind or improved and removed from the list to draft, I've PRODed 7, which leaves 104 to send to draft. It's about 13.8% being drafted or PRODed. I've not calculated how many have been removed from the list. Sri Lankan lists are scarce, so that will probably increase the percentage. I'm not sure about the Indian lists Blue Square Thing (talk) 08:37, 4 June 2025 (UTC)

• Update: just the British to do now – got through all the Indians and Sri Lankans pretty much. 65% of Indians redirected; 22% of Sri Lankans Blue Square Thing (talk) 07:52, 7 June 2025 (UTC)

• Update: I'm now done working through these lists and I assume the others will be sent to draft at some point in the near future. There are 287 articles still tagged with template:special draft pending. Checking which articles link to that template is the easiest way by far of identifying them. The majority are south Asian and South African Blue Square Thing (talk) 11:13, 18 June 2025 (UTC)

What is the consensus?

In order to stop this edit warring and settle a disputed consensus. I am really concerned about edit summaries like this: There’s a reason ICC was removed from the tournament names. That was where consensus was achieved. Stop making up imaginary consensus to suit your edits. in an edit to Kane Williamson and this: Medal tables have position medals. Start a discussion if you’re have a problem. Your mass changes are disruptive. in an edit to Ravi Bishnoi. Both were by User:OCDD. Clearly there is a dispute of consensus and we need an Independent Neutral expert to sort both of these disputes. I will abide by the Independent Neutral ruler regardless of whether they rule in Favour of me or OCDD and I ultimately only care about this consensus being upheld regardless of who is correct or incorrect. Only thing I have to argue is that on medal record in favour of words is that these world cups are Independently run by the Cricket without being part of a broader games, Olympic Games, Commonwealth Games ETC. Medals are not handed out like One, Two and Three. Actually, I do have another argument after all and that is that the meaning of consensus can be discussed or undiscussed. Although this has not been discussed (Please correct me if I am wrong), editors have generally overwhelmingly agreed on using stuff like Winner, Runner Up over medals and User:OCDD decided to change it without discussion. If a discussion has been cited, please tell me. And most importantly, far more importantly than winning my case or whether me or OCDD are sided with: MAY THE TRUTH WIN EVEN IF IT MEANS I LOSE MY CASE!!! Servite et contribuere (talk) 06:09, 17 June 2025 (UTC)

Also, I have made a decision just now to forbid myself or User:OCDD from making a final ruling. Thank you Servite et contribuere (talk) 06:13, 17 June 2025 (UTC)

I'm a bit confused. In Olympic Games and Commonwealth Games medals ARE handed out for first, second and third places. HiLo48 (talk) 07:32, 17 June 2025 (UTC)

No confusion necessary - Ravi Bishnoi is odd because he did win a medal and was also a runner-up in a competition without medals. I've edited the article to match what it should be without looking at any of the history, and this basically matches what it was before OCDD's initial edit. SportingFlyer T·C 08:06, 17 June 2025 (UTC)

HiLo48 What I meant was unlike the Olympic and Commonwealth Games just for clarification. Servite et contribuere (talk) 08:22, 17 June 2025 (UTC)

Every ICC event has medals [have you never seen the post final ceremony?] and are given on the basis of positions not like Olympics which have gold, silver, bronze. OCDD (talk) 08:09, 17 June 2025 (UTC)

Have you never seen the post final ceremony? I'm very sorry OCDD, but unless you can provide a source of evidence of post match ceremony handing out Gold, Silver and Bronze it is WP:OR. Servite et contribuere (talk) 08:27, 17 June 2025 (UTC)

I never said they hand out gold, silver and bronze. Do you lack comprehension skills? READ again. I said they hand out position medials and not gold, silver, bronze. OCDD (talk) 08:39, 17 June 2025 (UTC)

As for ICC not being in the page names, there was a move discussion and after a consensus ICC was removed from Cricket World Cup and T20 World Cup page names. Please go checkthe logs before making random accusations, Servite et contribuere. OCDD (talk) 08:11, 17 June 2025 (UTC)

OCDD I have know seen it. Another important thing to keep in mind is that the move was only for article titles. I wasn't making random accusations. I am discussing how to improve Wikipedia. We just have to ask the experts whether the article title applies in medal record. Thank you Servite et contribuere (talk) 08:25, 17 June 2025 (UTC)

Why should it? OCDD (talk) 08:39, 17 June 2025 (UTC)

OCDD I think we might have a misunderstanding. What I meant was does the RM mean we have to go by the new article title after the RM or not? It's still best to ask what experts say as they are the ones who can resolve these disputes and misunderstandings. That's all Servite et contribuere (talk) 09:32, 17 June 2025 (UTC)

ICC was only removed from the titles, yes. The word "ICC" should be used in the lead and infobox still. Other places, we could just go with the article's title. Vestrian24Bio 10:26, 17 June 2025 (UTC)

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Good article reassessment for Rob Key

Rob Key has been nominated for a good article reassessment. If you are interested in the discussion, please participate by adding your comments to the reassessment page. If concerns are not addressed during the review period, the good article status may be removed from the article. Z1720 (talk) 01:08, 24 June 2025 (UTC)

Edits to Virat Kohli

I've come along to strongly disagree with these edits made by User:OCDD on Virat Kohli in the medal table. The long-standing consensus over the years has been to use words instead of numbered medals. I also strongly disagree with saying simply "The National Team". (Doesn't matter whether it seems obvious of which one it is, there are many out there). The article title changes also did not apply here and adding the hosts to the ICC World Test Championship is obviously WP:OR and/or WP:SYNTH. There has also been a long consensus not to include the Test mace and it is also WP:OR and/or WP:SYNTH to add a location based on where the final series was played. I feel like these edits (To the medal record and opening of National Team)) should be reverted and a consensus should be reached on this. Even after I gave an edit warring warning, they continued to edit war anyways and did not appear willing to collaborate during the talk of the warning. Then when restoring hosts to the ICC World Test Championships, the said they meant posters when they had no evidence to prove what they looked like which is also WP:OR. I think we should discuss this thing short term and them maybe start a long term discussion. Thank you Servite et contribuere (talk) 23:03, 24 June 2025 (UTC)

yeah, the test mace is made up nonsense, and is not listed in reliable sources. Spike 'em (talk) 23:31, 24 June 2025 (UTC)

Spike 'em I've also got to admit I strongly disagree with the changes to the medal record. I am pretty sure the longstanding consensus is to use words instead of numbered medals. Does anyone have any confirmation on this? If this is consensus, it should also be changed back. Thank you Servite et contribuere (talk) 02:52, 26 June 2025 (UTC)

I certainly prefere Winner/Runner-up to 1/2 but not sure if/when consensus was reached on this, but I'll have a look. Spike 'em (talk) 10:31, 26 June 2025 (UTC)

Spike 'em I have three things to say: The first one: Why do I tag your username? To specify who the message is intended to be sent to. Number two, I am pretty we still have to mention which National Team no matter how obvious which national team one thinks it is. And number three, my thought has been that the consensus has been reached via WP:EDITCONSENSUS. Thank you Servite et contribuere (talk) 11:55, 26 June 2025 (UTC)

If you feel that strongly then make the changes yourself. Spike 'em (talk) 13:22, 26 June 2025 (UTC)

Spike 'em The main problem is that it keeps getting reverted. National teams have been specified about basically every athlete that plays International sports. Basically until OCDD came along, no lead said just "The national team" it actually said "The (Whatever country that was, like Australia, India, England, South Africa, New Zealand) national team". Gaining consensus should be needed to make such a change considering it is not a Minor change. Servite et contribuere (talk) 13:50, 26 June 2025 (UTC)

The only discussions I can find in WT:CRIC go against medal templates, but that seems to make no difference to people adding them.

• Archive 93: Medal templates
• Archive 93: Medal Record
• Archive 94: Proposal 3: Medal tables should be removed from infoboxes
• Archive 94: Medals in infoboxes, again

Though in a surprising turn, given my dislike of the medal box, it seems I have done some testing on improving it:IB cricketer: Medal.

It was first added to the IB back in 2019. Spike 'em (talk) 11:23, 26 June 2025 (UTC)

This is an attempt to make a WP:LOCALCONSENSUS against the MOS and against the consensuses of this WikiProject. Read the discussions linked, there is no consensus for these changes. Joseph2302 (talk) 13:51, 26 June 2025 (UTC)

Joseph2302 Sorry, but who is making an attempt to make a local consensus? Could you specify please? Thank you Servite et contribuere (talk) 14:26, 26 June 2025 (UTC)

OCDD is trying to do what they want without discussion, apologies I misread one of your earlier comments and thought (incorrectly) that you were supporting the random set of undisclosed changes. Joseph2302 (talk) 15:42, 26 June 2025 (UTC)

On medal templates, perhaps we need to formally add them to the infobox int he same way they are for sports such cycling where the box is automatically collapsed (as on Chris Froome, for example)? It might help if we had a list of what to include and how to include it - that seems to have been an issue here Blue Square Thing (talk) 08:35, 28 June 2025 (UTC)

Blue Square Thing I think it is better to use Winner/Runner up as of now until further discussion. Association Football articles do it that way and I think it is better (Except for Multi Sport Games such as Olympics) considering these are team sports and not individual sports. Servite et contribuere (talk) 09:20, 28 June 2025 (UTC)

So, Damien Fleming would be correct then? Solid blocks when they're not Olympics or Commonwealth Games and so on? That sounds reasonable to me Blue Square Thing (talk) 10:03, 28 June 2025 (UTC)

Blue Square Thing Good example and yes. Servite et contribuere (talk) 10:13, 28 June 2025 (UTC)

Blue Square Thing For example: A player isn't going to celebrate his/her/their team winning a Cricket tournament that was not a Multi Games event by saying: "WE WON GOLD!", they would more likely say something like: "WE WON THE WORLD CUP". Whereas in a competition like the Commonwealth Games, the Olympics or Asian Games, they are more likely to say they won gold. I totally get OCDD'S argument, but I am pretty sure most Sports tournaments have medals. But it is not in common for someone to call the Winner of an ICC (Men's, Women's, Any Format) Tournament as Gold or Silver Medal Winners. In the Olympics (Summer or Winter), Commonwealth Games, basically everyone says that Gold, Silver (or whatever medal) was Won. I think IIHF is an exemption to this. Servite et contribuere (talk) 10:32, 28 June 2025 (UTC)

OK, so I think people are largely on the same page here. @Spike 'em: are you able to edit the template to bring it in line with the style used on Template:Infobox football biography which seems to auto collapse the medal template section? This seems like a reasonable compromise given that every discussion we've ever had seems to have rejected their use, but we're clearly not going to stop that happening. Then we can work through the, at the last count, 598 pages that use medal templates directly – there are some that use a module to include them which we might not manage to get all of (556 pages use a module of some kind). That's doable Blue Square Thing (talk) 13:24, 28 June 2025 (UTC)

I'll have a look, but away for a couple of days. Spike 'em (talk) 14:26, 28 June 2025 (UTC)

There is a param {{{show-medals}}} to control the medal box expansion. I've brought the cricketer IB in line with the cyclclist / footballer ones, so the default is to not expand. Spike 'em (talk) 10:12, 30 June 2025 (UTC)

Thanks. I think that's a decent compromise in the circumstances and seems to work fine Blue Square Thing (talk) 19:30, 30 June 2025 (UTC)

What's the ordering with these medals then? I've reordered Kohli's to be: WTC > WC > Champ Trophy > T20 WC > Asia Cup > Under19 thing. And within each one, to be chronological? Is that the way other sports do things or not? Blue Square Thing (talk) 13:53, 28 June 2025 (UTC)

Blue Square Thing I also think before OCDD made all these mass changes to the Medal Section that ICC and ACC were included. A question answered on a prior discussion over this was answered by Vestrian24Bio over tournament names regarding article title changes and replied:

ICC was only removed from the titles, yes. The word "ICC" should be used in the lead and infobox still. Other places, we could just go with the article's title. I would assume that is also the same for ACC Asia Cup which I am pretty sure was listed in medals before these undiscussed mass changes. Servite et contribuere (talk) 14:07, 28 June 2025 (UTC)

@Servite et contribuere I'm sorry, I should've been clearer... I meant lead & infobox in the main event articles such as Cricket World Cup, 2023 Cricket World Cup etc. While as for these (player articles, etc.) while I'm not entirely sure I would prefer to go with the Article's title instead. Vestrian24Bio 16:27, 30 June 2025 (UTC)

@Blue Square Thing Champ Trophy could come after the T20WC - priority to world championships & world cups - my opinion. Vestrian24Bio 16:29, 30 June 2025 (UTC)

Yes, I couldn't decide which way to do it and figured that Test-List A-T20 would be an easier way to go, especially given the fairly recent promotion of the T20 WC to that naming style. It doesn't really matter I suppose, but it might be handy to have something we can generally agree on rather than putting all the gold ones first Blue Square Thing (talk) 19:30, 30 June 2025 (UTC)

I'd also like to bring to peoples attention the abberation that is the list of career acheivements at the top of the Interational career section. Full of unexplained / meaningless colours and cup icons for finishes that do not earn such baubles. Spike 'em (talk) 11:36, 26 June 2025 (UTC)

They are major MOS:ACCESS failures, including Avoid using color as the sole means of conveying information. Spike 'em (talk) 11:47, 26 June 2025 (UTC)

I have removed them all (they were in international as well as IPL sections)- as well as violating MOS:COLOUR, they violate other MOS elements e.g. use prose to summarise not tables, and were completely unsourced (because they didn't have appropriate text verification) or WP:OR. Joseph2302 (talk) 13:18, 27 June 2025 (UTC)

Thanks for doing that. I tried to in May and got reverted. The tables at the bottom also need some work - removing the centring and weeding out some of the less notable "achievements". Certainly prose would be better in many cases and I'm not entirely convinced that we need a table which includes where Madame Tussauds has his wax statue Blue Square Thing (talk) 15:38, 27 June 2025 (UTC)

Yeah, lists of POTM awards were definitely deprecated a few years back. Spike 'em (talk) 16:10, 27 June 2025 (UTC)

I've worked through the tables and tried to cut some of the over detail. I probably cut too much, but it is an awfully long article. I removed the tables if year by year runs etc... because I couldn't find a source that easily summarised these. There probably is one. And I worked through the personal, investments and so on section to remove some trivia, repetition, and the press releases that seem to mainly be adverts for brands. Again, I've probably cut too much. OCDD's been blocked form the article for three months. Perhaps someone with more time might like to run through the article and see if it needs reworking in places Blue Square Thing (talk) 08:28, 28 June 2025 (UTC)

I've just removed a bunch of similar stuff from Abhishek Sharma btw. It's clearly spread Blue Square Thing (talk) 08:11, 1 July 2025 (UTC)

Again, it was OCDD adding this, plus an IP editor (that may well be them too- as the edits are very similar). If they don't listen or engage with us here, this may be an WP:ANI conduct issue. Currently OCDD is blocked from Kohli's article but if they keep spreading this nonsense then we should ask for a wider block. Joseph2302 (talk) 08:22, 1 July 2025 (UTC)

And Smriti Mandhana. Same patterns with prominent IP editors as well Blue Square Thing (talk) 12:13, 2 July 2025 (UTC)

And Jitesh Sharma and Rajat Patidar. All RCB for what it's worth Blue Square Thing (talk) 12:55, 2 July 2025 (UTC)

Good article reviews!

There are some cricket GA noms at GAN... admittedly all mine :D I wonder if anyone would like to review these, as there is currently a huge backlog?!

• Chris Benham: start nom
• Colin Ingleby-Mackenzie: start nom
• Rowland Prothero, 1st Baron Ernle: start nom

Cheers in advance to anyone who takes these on. Shiny stuff in return! AA (talk) 10:27, 28 June 2025 (UTC)

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Discussion at Talk:2024 Men's T20 World Cup#Merge proposal

There is a proposed merge discussion at Talk:2024 Men's T20 World Cup#Merge proposal that may be of interest to members of this WikiProject. Vestrian24Bio 16:25, 29 June 2025 (UTC)

There seems to be a really odd inclination in this project to unnecessarily divide articles. Look at 2026 Men's T20 World Cup – Africa Sub-regional Qualifier A, 2026 Men's T20 World Cup – Africa Sub-regional Qualifier B, 2026 Men's T20 World Cup – Africa Sub-regional Qualifier C, and 2025 Men's T20 World Cup Africa Regional Final, which should, as it was for previous tournaments, should just be one article titled 2024–25 ICC Men's T20 World Cup Africa Qualifier. Can someone please explain why the divide was thought a good idea? ~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 09:33, 30 June 2025 (UTC)

Addition of batting strike rate to the info box or career statistics table

I think batting strike rate is an imporant statistic for a cricketer (especially a batter) and must be shown to give an appropriate representation of their career. Especially for batetrs in t20 format strikerate if one of the mos important statistics that represents their performance. Can this information be added through the info box or a career statistics table or something else? Arjunremember (talk) 20:50, 2 July 2025 (UTC)

I replied on the infobox talk page, which is where I saw this first. One solution is that you could work on the strike rate article which has absolutely no prose sources whatsoever. It needs some. Then you could think about a way that we could write about strike rate sensibly in articles. I'm not sure how I'd go about doing so. I imagine it would mainly be relevant to very modern players, almost certainly those playing within the last 10 to 15 years, and almost certainly relevant mainly to those playing limited overs cricket. I guess there might be a case for checkin the Bazball article, which looks interesting at first glance and seeing if there's any crossover as well Blue Square Thing (talk) 21:20, 2 July 2025 (UTC)

CricketArchive as external link

As CricketArchive is behind a paywall, it's usage in external link violates WP:ELNO point 6, as it is a Sites that require payment or registration to view the relevant content. As such, I don't believe it should be used as an external link, in which case the template to do so- Template:Cricketarchive should probably be deleted to discourage people adding it as an external link. Thoughts? Joseph2302 (talk) 10:47, 4 July 2025 (UTC)

Agree, it should be deleted. Vestrian24Bio 12:31, 4 July 2025 (UTC)

The template has a valid use to cite information in-text. Hack (talk) 13:30, 4 July 2025 (UTC)

It shouldn't be being used for in-text citations as per the documentation: Template:Cricketarchive displays an external link to a CricketArchive web page. Links to cricket player profiles are created with the "id" parameter and links to other pages are created with the "ref" parameter. It is intended for use in the external links section of an article. This, like other similar sports templates should only be used for external links. Joseph2302 (talk) 13:51, 4 July 2025 (UTC)

I think its currently in use on just over 3,000 pages. I'd can't think of a use for it, although as some will be used as references it's tricky. Can we get a bot to do the rounds and delete any uses that are in an external links section first? I have no idea if that's possible Blue Square Thing (talk) 19:32, 4 July 2025 (UTC)

@Blue Square Thing: we could place a request at Wikipedia:AutoWikiBrowser/Tasks. Vestrian24Bio 03:05, 5 July 2025 (UTC)

If we decide this is a good idea, that wouldn't certainly be worth exploring Blue Square Thing (talk) 08:51, 5 July 2025 (UTC)

I don't think they need to be removed. In some instances, they it does provide more info than CricInfo. They should be discouraged, and it already has a padlock on it to indicate it's a subscription only link. Some users would have a subscription, and if you are quick with the stop loading button, anyone can still read the site. What would be more useful would be to ensure that it is never used as the source in the infobox. And WP:ELNO only says that "one should generally avoid providing external links" not that you can't. The-Pope (talk) 04:05, 5 July 2025 (UTC)

What really needs to happen, is they need to be moved out of external links and used as references instead. In many cases they probably already are. The problem is that 3,000 articles is a lot to work through and do that with. I would rather see them removed as external links – their paywall redirect is not the sort of thing an XL should do

My gut feeling, from looking at the Infobox cricketer maintenance category, is that there aren't any uses of the template as a reference in the infobox, but I might be wrong about that Blue Square Thing (talk) 08:51, 5 July 2025 (UTC)

South African teams and the SACB

Does anyone know the current thinking on whether the teams that played in the South African Cricket Board matches (primarily the Howa Bowl) are considered the same teams as those that played in the Currie Cup and other competitions? CricketArchive has them separate, but then it also has Natal and KwaZulu-Natal separate; CricInfo also has them separate in terms of records. The matches were later given FC status (Wisden 2006). People such as Richard Compton (cricketer) and Patrick Compton, for example, we have playing for Natal, but actually played for the SACB team.

I'm currently working on a List of Natal cricketers, and we already have Eastern Province and Western Province lists which may either have people on who shouldn't be or will need people adding Blue Square Thing (talk) 15:39, 5 July 2025 (UTC)