Talk:Common myna
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Florida population
[edit]The Common Myna is essentially established in south and south-central Florida, however a lack of field work and ( = previous likely due to...) a bias against exotic birds in some sections of the SoFla ornithological community means it will likely be some time before their establishment is considered "official" and they go on the Florida Ornithological Society checklist.
To find them with a nearly 100% guarantee of success, drive around Homestead and check shopping-center signs and the Burger King parking lot. :-) - Aerobird 23:17, 16 December 2006 (UTC)
Australia
[edit]I have never heard of common mynas (or Indian Mynas as they are known locally) swooping as claimed in the article, nor have I seen them attack other birds. And those comments do not belong under the heading of Australia anyway. I am a lemon 05:09, 9 August 2007 (UTC)
- I see them attack other birds all the time. Viriditas (talk) 13:20, 27 February 2010 (UTC)
- I have also seen these birds being aggressive to other feeding and nesting birds.
- Also, populations in Queensland and Victoria have exploded in the last 20 years.
- Other articles and sources of information online support this too. I feel this Australia paragraph should be updated. 49.183.154.51 (talk) 20:16, 29 October 2024 (UTC)
- They obviously push other bird out of habitat and are an invasive species- haven’t you seen how Wattle birds and Currawongs battle with them as they colonise whole trees. Are you one of those people who think magpies are swooping, when they’re just flying close by. If you haven’t seen how brutal mynas are then you must oblivious to your surroundings- no they don’t regularly swoop humans and unlike miner birds who swoop humans and dogs but aren’t that aggressive. 124.170.100.134 (talk) 04:33, 18 December 2024 (UTC)
I removed the text: "Common Mynas will swoop near, or indeed at, people as Australian Magpies do.[citation needed] They will attack many other species including magpies, crows, other birds as well as cats and small dogs." I have been a birdwatcher in Australia for many years and have never observed this behaviour. And I have paid particular attention to this bird. Many people confuse the "Indian Myna" with the native Australian "Noisy Miner" (actually a bird of the honeyeater family), which do indeed mob other birds and occasionally cats and dogs (people, very rarely).
Until a reputable ornithological journal or text can be cited as evidence of this behaviour, I think it should be left out.WikiLambo 18:07, 25 October 2007 (UTC)
- I raise common minahs on Big Island Hawaii and have witnessed them swooping on Mongoose twice over few months time. They attack Mongoose by flying behind them as the mongoose runs , the Minah birds peck them in the head . Minahbirdman (talk) 06:09, 15 December 2022 (UTC)
I live in Uzbekistan. This bird is called "Myna", "Afghan starling", or "mojaheddin/dushman" in my country. The last nick name is due to their common behaviour. It is not only they cause damage to agriculture. They frequently attack cats and dogs. I have seen them attacking magpies, though I haven't ever seen them attacking other birds. They sometimes pretend to attack people. I never heard of myna actually biting people, but if you are near their nest, they will sometimes swoop at you, doing fast dives with loud screech and then turn off just a couple feet fom your head/face. They will do that again and again untill you are away. People who live just beneath the roof in multi-storied buildings sometimes complain that they can not open their windows safely because mynas will swoop at them. Mynas really do bite cats and dogs. My cat always has his head bitten by mynas. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 79.164.134.38 (talk) 21:12, 9 March 2009 (UTC)
In the 'effects on ecosystems and humans' section it says that "reproduction rates of native hollow-nesting parrots in the bush land of eastern Australia have been reduced by up to 80% by the Common Myna", citing a paper that actually says that myna's have "excluded native birds from 80% of nesting sites". The author of this section of this article seems to have confused the rate of exclusion of parrots with the rate of reproductive success. Undoubtedly there will be a correlation between the two, it wont be 1:1, which would imply 100% occupation of said nesting sites by parrots before the introduction of mynas. Usually I dont have a problem with grose overstatement,but today it bugged me. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 210.15.222.138 (talk) 07:52, 12 September 2011 (UTC)
The following sentence (“In a 2008 popular vote, the bird was named "The Most Important Pest/Problem" in Australia, also earning the nickname "flying rats" due to their scavenging resembling that of rats.[27]”) will grossly misrepresents the environmental impact that Indian Myna have as an invasive species in Australia for some readers. The link [27] is to an opinion survey that says absolutely nothing about Indan Myna; all it says is that the outcomes of an opinion poll can be something far removed from the facts. Moreover, the sentence at worst perpetuates an urban myth about and to the detriment of Indian Myna and at best will annoy anyone who knows that popularity arguments are fallacies (A thing is not true just because many people think so). Please expand the references for this Wiki to academic publications in place of those to arbitrary websites (For example, "Do Common Mynas significantly compete with native birds in urban environments?" http://dx.doi.org/10.1007/s10336-011-0674-5 might help provide some perspective and remove some bias on the topic). Runestone1 (talk) 09:16, 15 March 2012 (UTC)
Not sure when the following was written: "The bird can live and breed in a wide range of temperatures, though it thrives in hotter regions. Self-sustaining populations of Common Myna have been found in regions of mean warmest month temperature no less than 23.2°C and mean coldest month temperature no less than -0.4°C, implying that the Common Myna could potentially spread from Sydney northward along the eastern coast to Cairns", but Cairns has had common mynas for years and they are a significant pest in urban areas and in older suburbs where old "Queenslander" houses provide numerous nesting opportunities. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 58.164.141.140 (talk) 14:04, 22 July 2012 (UTC)
Cooperation
[edit]These birds seem to take great care to help the sick and injured members of their groups. Has anyone ever noticed this? While they certainly compete for dominance, once they form large flocks, they can be quite loyal to the group, and will help feed and forage for members that are too old or unable to do it themselves. Viriditas (talk) 13:17, 27 February 2010 (UTC)
Mimicing
[edit]The Mynas in australia, can mimic sounds. i play computer games like RTS, Grand Theft Auto, The Need for Speed Series, i noticed a myna i was making sounds similar to guns, arrows, swords and miscallious sounds (e.g buliding, GUI and music), two years later the sound disapeared my negihbours had a cat with a bell i Beleve it Killed the myna everytime i play that game i think of that myna, Note: This is a real Story only edit grammical errors and mispelling thank you for understanding. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 118.208.141.86 (talk) 04:41, 19 December 2011 (UTC)
Yeah, why there is nothing about mimicking in the article? I thought this species is famous for it. Finnish wikipedia has this: "suosittu lemmikkilintu ja voi oppia matkimaan ihmispuhetta.", translates to "popular pet bird, and it can learn to mimick human speech." Though that sentence is not sourced. 46.132.59.156 (talk) 15:48, 18 March 2024 (UTC)
Though that sentence is not sourced
There's your answer. Find sources that discuss their mimicry, and information can be added to the article. - UtherSRG (talk) 16:45, 18 March 2024 (UTC)
Latin name
[edit]The common myna was recently classified in the genus sturnus (the genus of the European starling) and is now referred to as Sturnus tristis in scientific articles see link1 and link2 — Preceding unsigned comment added by DoubleMadi (talk • contribs) 03:55, 28 December 2011 (UTC)
Possible incorrect picture
[edit]I would like bring everyone's attention to the possibility that 'BurungTiongGembalaKerbau.jpg', as shown in this page, might not be a Common Myna, since it lacks the yellow patch behind its eye. I trust that some other person more qualified than me can make certain of it. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 203.121.71.249 (talk) 05:00, 4 September 2012 (UTC)
- Good catch. I suspect it is an immature Acridotheres javanicus. Have removed it. Shyamal (talk) 14:25, 4 September 2012 (UTC)
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[edit]Hello @Grungaloo: What reference error? That isn't a thesis. Invasive Spices (talk) 22:32, 2 November 2023 (UTC)
- You're right - my mistake. It was missing a periodical name so it had generated a CS1 error. I've changed it back to the journal citation template and added the journal name. grungaloo (talk) 02:32, 3 November 2023 (UTC)
- Now I understand. Invasive Spices (talk) 18:58, 3 November 2023 (UTC)
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