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Requested move 2 December 2024

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The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

The result of the move request was: moved. Moved to the alternate titles per consensus with the lowercase c in county caveat. (non-admin closure) cyberdog958Talk 09:56, 17 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

– I believe that the common names of the counties of Latvia are as follows. These counties remained largely unchanged for around 200 years, even though they belonged to different states with varying official languages. Many of these counties were originally established as Foo Captaincy (German: Hauptmannschaft Foo). Later, they became Foo County (German: Kreis Foo). In Latvian, they have always been called apriņķi (singular: apriņķis), in Russian uezd, and in Polish powiat. The issue arose when I attempted to rename the corresponding categories, but users Ymblanter and Marcocapelle questioned whether apriņķi could truly be considered the common name for these counties. Cuvaj (talk) 09:30, 2 December 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. ~/Bunnypranav:<ping> 12:09, 9 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I would support the move. Ymblanter (talk) 13:22, 2 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support, "county" is the most general term. If the counties would have existed exclusively under Latvian rule then apriņķis might have been appropriate but the counties also existed under other regimes. Marcocapelle (talk) 14:59, 2 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Move per WP:UE:

A small c may be necessary. Theparties (talk) 00:45, 6 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Theparties why with a lowercase 'c'? For example, all articles about counties of the US use a capital 'C' in their titles. Cuvaj (talk) 08:57, 6 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Ah, the same problem we have with District vs district... Hey man im josh (talk) 17:08, 9 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Relisting comment: Consensus to move, thoughts on lower/uppercase c? ~/Bunnypranav:<ping> 12:09, 9 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Not that Wikipedia uses the Chicago Manual of Style as an authoritative style guide, but it's my go-to for questions like this. CMOS recommends a capitalized "County" in the guideline that says "Words denoting political divisions—from empire, republic, and statedown to ward and precinct—are capitalized when they follow a name and are used as an accepted part of the name."
I support capitalizing "County". —Eyer (he/him) If you reply, add {{reply to|Eyer}} to your message. 17:10, 9 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
(edit conflict) I don't notice any comments about sources. Are there English-language sources that refer to these as counties? If so, do they use uppercase consistently? Wikipedia's guidelines (WP:LOWERCASE / WP:NCCAPS / MOS:CAPS) would say to use lowercase unless it can be shown that English-language sources consistently user uppercase. —⁠ ⁠BarrelProof (talk) 17:16, 9 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.
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