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Sri Lanka

The naval ensign of Sri Lanka is in the table at about half the size of the others. I know how I'd fix that for a normal File transclusion; but the <gallery>...</gallery> layout, which apparently makes the bare lines into template calls, just incorporates additional parameters like width=800 or width11=800 into the caption. {{Gallery}} would probably work, but that would require changing all the lines into the rather more complex syntax. It would also complicate future edits of the gallery: inserting or deleting an image anywhere except the very last position would require changing all the positional numbers in params like

width4=200 [as in the second example in Template:Gallery/doc)
and (if used) alt3=The Finnish yacht club ensign includes a space for the club emblem

So... If somebody on this project knows how to fix the size problem, please be bold!

I'm putting a pointer to this Talk entry at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Heraldry and vexillology#"ensign" also needs some image work.

To discuss this, please {{Ping}} me. --Thnidu (talk) 00:33, 7 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]

@Thnidu: I think you've misunderstood the nature of this flag. It is a plain white flag with a canton (small upper-left quarter) showing the national flag. So the problem here is not the size, which is fine, but the fact that the perimeter is not sufficiently defined. The solution is probably to add a thin black border; and indeed, according to file on Commons, "It is easy to put a border around this image", simply by adding the word "border". Unfortunately, this doesn't seem to work within a gallery ... so back to you to find a technical fix. GrindtXX (talk) 00:59, 7 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]

@GrindtXX: Ah ha, thank you very much. I had already noticed that problem with several other ensigns that have a lot of white area at the border, but all the others on the page have at least one point of another color at each edge. ...(Sigh.) --Thnidu (talk) 22:14, 7 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]

@GrindtXX: FIXED! :-D I switched the gallery from HTML-style <gallery> to Template:Gallery, and that puts a thin grey border around every image. It wasn't as hard as I expected: a one-line Perl script made all the changes at once. I don't know how to change the border style within the template, if it's even possible, but it isn't essential. --Thnidu (talk) 22:42, 7 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]

@Thnidu: the image border style (1px solid #CCCCCC) is fixed in the Lua module that does the actual gallery-building, so making this property available for modification would involve coding changes. Perhaps an alternative version with more options could be created, but there’s no simple way to override its current behaviour AFAICT.—Odysseus 1479 00:03, 8 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for the info, Odysseus1479. I'm not ready to learn another programming language. --Thnidu (talk) 02:41, 8 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]

A Commons file used on this page has been nominated for deletion

The following Wikimedia Commons file used on this page has been nominated for deletion:

Ensign of Vietnam People's Navy.svg

Participate in the deletion discussion at the nomination page. —Community Tech bot (talk) 05:13, 8 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]

usage symbols

Done
§ National ensigns gives three vexillological "usage symbols" but doesn't explain their use:

civil ensign (usage symbol )
state ensign or government ensign (usage symbol )
naval ensign (usage symbol )

An explanation would be welcome. --Thnidu (talk) 18:04, 25 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Requested move 18 February 2023

The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

The result of the move request was: Moved. (closed by non-admin page mover) Silikonz💬 22:05, 24 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Ensign → Ensign (flag)
Ensign (disambiguation) → Ensign

– There is WP:NOPRIMARY topic either by pageviews or longterm significance. The military rank has also been around for hundreds of years. ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ (ᴛ) 05:32, 18 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Support. I agree that the military rank is of equal significance, so there is no primary topic here. But I would move the flag and rank articles to the top of the DAB page, similar to the Georgia page. Rreagan007 (talk) 16:25, 18 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Support. I agree the rank is at least as significant currently and probably for the foreseeable future. @Rreagan007: the current DAB seems reasonable in terms of prominence for the rank and flag, but I think tweaks would be fine too. Skynxnex (talk) 16:38, 18 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Support - There's no clear WP:PRIMARYTOPIC between the two, not in such a way that would warrant this article being at the primary name. This title being a DAB page perfect sense. - Aoidh (talk) 20:26, 18 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Support the rank has more views (22,299) than the flag (3,658)[[1]]. Crouch, Swale (talk) 17:19, 19 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Support. I see no reason not to move it, considering that there seems to be no WP:PRIMARYTOPIC here. Judeinator9001 (talk) 21:10, 19 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Support per nom. BD2412 T 05:45, 21 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Support per nom. Estar8806 (talk) 02:25, 24 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.