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"Primarily used by" request
[edit]Hi editors, I had another request to follow up on the changes made by Bilorv after I posted my draft. One of Bilorv's criticisms of the draft was that it diminished OnlyFans' connection to sex work. This wasn't my intention – as a company, OnlyFans is proud to be a place where sex workers and adult content creators can publish their content – but I don't think that the way the connection between OnlyFans and sex work is portrayed in a couple of spots in this article is accurate or supported by reliable sources. My intention with the draft was to try to stick to the sources as closely as possible based on my reading of WP:VERIFY and WP:RS.
That brings me to my request: there are two sentences which say that OnlyFans is mainly used by sex workers to produce pornography, one in the opening paragraph of the introduction and one in the second paragraph of the Company overview section. I propose removing the words "primarily" and "mainly", respectively, and replacing the phrasing with "popular with". It would look like this:
- The service is
used primarily bypopular with sex workers who produce pornography, but it also hosts the work of other content creators, such as physical fitness experts and musicians. - OnlyFans is
mainly used bypopular with pornographic creators, both amateur and professional, but it also has a market with other content creators—including chefs, fitness trainers, and musicians.
It's perfectly accurate to say that pornographic creators publish their content on OnlyFans, but the sources used in the article don't specifically verify that adult content creators are the primary creator base.
In both sentences, the claim is cited to this Dazed article, but the article never makes this claim at any point. The closest it gets to making that claim is in the third paragraph, where it says, "An increasingly popular alternative, however, is OnlyFans, which operates a subscription model not unlike Patreon; users can sign up to become 'fans' of sex workers and porn creators, paying a regular monthly fee for a slow but steady influx of content. It’s worth noting that it’s a general site – fitness bloggers, wellness gurus and dieticians all share online space with porn stars – and the exact number of users is difficult to track down." (emphasis mine). The source being used here seems to specifically refute the notion that OnlyFans is primarily used by sex workers, and only specifically claims it is popular with sex workers.
In the Company overview section, the claim is cited to both the Dazed article and The New York Times, but the Times doesn't make any claims about what creators are primarily creating; the article focuses on the sex work aspect of OnlyFans, yes, but does not say that OnlyFans is primarily a sex work platform.
For what it's worth, the "popular with" phrasing used to be in the article as well, and was changed on August 11, 2022.
Again, my request here is to change a word from those two sentences as noted above to make the article more accurate by sticking with what reliable sources specifically verify. Please let me know what you think. AG at OnlyFans (talk) 19:57, 24 October 2023 (UTC)
- I believe that sources in the article do verify the phrase "used primarily by". The first two I checked after Dazed say:
- Instead of making the change described, I've changed the inline citations. I've left the Dazed source there just because it's not used elsewhere. — Bilorv (talk) 22:58, 24 October 2023 (UTC)
- @Bilorv: I appreciate your quick response! I took a look at those two sources and I'm not sure either directly supports the statement that OnlyFans is primarily used by sex workers.
- In the BBC source, it says that OnlyFans is "known for its adult content" and that it is "best known for pornography" but what OnlyFans is known for and who are its primary content creators are separate things, so I don't think that directly supports the statement that OnlyFans is primarily used by sex workers. I think it would support "popular with", though.
- The Rolling Stone source directly contradicts the statement with this quote: “The top content creators on there are no longer sex workers but celebrities/YouTubers,” says Mrs. Hell, a model and dominatrix.
- The Dazed source also contradicts the statement: "It’s worth noting that it’s a general site – fitness bloggers, wellness gurus and dieticians all share online space with porn stars – and the exact number of users is difficult to track down."
- My goal here is to make the article as accurate as possible and I think that the phrase "primarily used by" makes the article less accurate overall. AG at OnlyFans (talk) 16:36, 2 November 2023 (UTC)
- @AG at OnlyFans I am in agreement that 'popular with' is a more accurate representation than 'primarily use by'. I have made the amend. ~~~~ Teasn1987a (talk) 15:05, 21 November 2024 (UTC)
Reliability of "Archives of Sexual Behavior" study
[edit]The study in the article seems very suspect. It's based on a survey conducted among university students and Amazon Mechanical Turk users, but as only 4 of the 285 university students reported using onlyfans, whereas 344 of the 433 Mechanical Turk users reported using it (as a creator or paying customer), it seems like most of the Mechanical Turk answers were dishonest (as you are usually only paid on MTurk if you qualify for the subject of the study, so people are incentivized to answer whatever makes them part of the group to be studied) and most of the data is therefore invalid. 2001:16B8:B1C0:A900:25B2:C6D5:61C9:FE7C (talk) 22:07, 31 July 2024 (UTC)
- Archives of Sexual Behavior is a peer-reviewed journal from a reputable publisher. It is not the role of Wikipedia editors to determine the merit or strength of a study that a reliable source publishes based on their understanding of the science. Morbidthoughts (talk) 23:41, 31 July 2024 (UTC)
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