Talk:South African farm attacks
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Conspiracy theory?
[edit]In what way is it a "conspiracy theory"? It isn't. 47.185.120.223 (talk) 17:01, 4 August 2023 (UTC)
- In the way the reliable sources describe it EvergreenFir (talk) 17:21, 4 August 2023 (UTC)
- In other words, in the way that left-biased "reliable sources" are only used as references. Meanwhile sources with high reliability like The Citizen (South African newspaper), are conveniently excluded.
- https://ground.news/interest/the-citizen_8f4e4d
- https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/the-citizen-south-africa/
- Instead mixed reliability sources, especially left-biased mixed reliability sources and outdated articles linked from said sources, are preferred. This is a fact. ChonokisFigueroa (talk) 19:00, 4 August 2023 (UTC)
- It's the standard biased practice on Wikipedia, sadly. They claim the content must be from a neutral point of view, while only allowing sources they deem "reliable" which all coincidentally have the same ideological bias. It's essentially become a political propaganda outlet. Noxian16 (talk) 23:07, 18 November 2023 (UTC)
- Evergreenfir, while it may not be the definition of genocide yet, the calls made to violence are genocidal level, and that was mentioned none. Bopswiki914 (talk) 14:45, 5 November 2023 (UTC)
- Why was my comment removed? Guess (((they're))) trying to shut me down? Oy vey. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 176.89.110.146 (talk) 15:44, 19 October 2024 (UTC)
Fact checkers
[edit]"Fact checkers have widely identified the notion of a white genocide in South Africa as a falsehood or myth". Wich fact checkers? What does it even mean to be a fact checker? Are we talking about the same fact checkers who are censoring the social media and the internet in generally to protect their leftist bolshevik ideology? It is easy to find sources that support the "white genocide" idea. Why do I have the feeling that none will be accepted on wikipedia, unlike the leftist "sources"? 46.97.176.204 (talk) 14:36, 4 June 2024 (UTC)
- The specific sources that are cited in support of that statement are the NY Times and the Washington Post. You may disagree, but the general consensus on Wikipedia is that both are reliable sources - see WP:RSP, for example. Mojo Hand (talk) 03:12, 5 June 2024 (UTC)
- (((Their))) sources and lies. The only ones you’re allowed to use. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 176.89.110.146 (talk) 15:48, 19 October 2024 (UTC)
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There have been several videos of black leaders saying take back you land and kill the whites who stole it. How come that isn't on there? Update this because trump and Elon both said that this is happening there recently. 2604:3D08:6B85:3D00:1484:63D0:D0F4:7994 (talk) 16:54, 4 February 2025 (UTC)
Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. M.Bitton (talk) 17:33, 4 February 2025 (UTC)
"However, there are no reliable figures that suggest that white farmers are being targeted in particular or that they are at a disproportionate risk of being killed"
[edit]This statement does not seem very neutral to me, it suggests that existing data does not support the claim of white farmers being disproportionately targeted, actively dismissing the claim. However, the BBC article cited for example, states that "The problem is, we don't know how many people are in each household or how many of the households are racially mixed. So we don't know how many white people there are on South Africa's farms. And that means we can't work out how likely those white people are to be murdered.", which suggests that a lack of precise data makes it impossible to tell IF white farmers are disproportionately targeted. Meeepmep (talk) 08:38, 15 February 2025 (UTC)
Attack on Afrikaners plaas, please find out if police has caught anyone in this matter and who are those perpetrators because other people who are not South Africans can do this, we want our rainbow nation.
[edit]Whit genocide, I don't like it please pay attention on the perpetrators 1 who are they 2.why. How. South Africans can be used to gain access into those plaas by outsiders, just follow up on police finds on this, let there be nothing missed. 105.245.170.125 (talk) 10:29, 27 February 2025 (UTC)
Link needed to Afriforum
[edit]Link is needed to Afriforum wiki page under "findings" and may be worth mentioning that it is considered a white supremecist organisation. I can't edit as it's protected Ytr1m (talk) 23:34, 8 March 2025 (UTC)