Talk:Statue of Almanzor, Algeciras

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Did you know... that the Spanish city of Algeciras took down a statue of a medieval Islamic Spanish ruler for restoration in 2013 and has yet to put it back?

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The result was: promoted by Hdolf (talk) 09:30, 25 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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... that the Spanish city of Algeciras took down a statue of a slave trader for restoration in 2013 and never put it back? Source: Almanzor's slave trading is cited in references 3 and 4 (number 3 is a pdf that can be found on Google) and further in his own article. References 6 and 7 are about town hall debates in 2016 and 2017 on the whereabouts of the statue. Reference 1 from this week refers to "La estatua de Almanzor que fue retirada en Algeciras" (The statue of Almanzor that was taken down in Algeciras) and "A falta del monumento de Algeciras, sólo hay una estatua de Almanzor en España". (In the absence of the monument in Algeciras, there is only one statue of Almanzor in Spain")

Comment: This is something that piqued my interest - those who wanted to take down the statue of a slave trader from a long-gone era of different values were a right-wing party, while those who want it back up and are talking about "erasing our local history" are from the left. This is the opposite to what we have seen in the US and even in the exact same region as this statue. That would make good clickbait. However I'd be loathe to mention any political party in this hook, as that would seem partisan.

Created by Unknown Temptation (talk). Self-nominated at 22:07, 4 August 2020 (UTC).[reply]

@Unknown Temptation: Hi, welcome to DYK. The article is just long enough, and there are no copyright violations. Something I'd like to verify, though:

The last sentence in the article says that "the statue is still missing", while it was "found in a warehouse" in 2016?
I would use "haven't" instead of "never" - for all we know they will put it back there next week.

Juxlos (talk) 11:14, 6 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Juxlos: I will edit the article now to correct this. Maybe "missing from view" would be accurate, but not missing, as we have at least in 2017 a "sighting". That is a good observation from yourself. I also prefer your use of tense. Do I have to write the hook again and have it reviewed again, or will an admin just write it for the main page with your wording? Thanks Unknown Temptation (talk) 22:50, 6 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Unknown Temptation, might as well edit the original hook. Juxlos (talk) 00:20, 7 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@Juxlos: the nominator stopped editing on August 9. Where are we going with this? Yoninah (talk) 22:39, 19 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Well, bit of a shame. Juxlos (talk) 11:00, 23 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@Kingsif: do you feel like adopting this? Yoninah (talk) 14:58, 23 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Go on, then, I'll see if I can expand it, too. I'll check the issues mentioned above first. Kingsif (talk) 19:15, 23 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks! Yoninah (talk) 22:00, 23 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Alt1 ... that the Spanish city of Algeciras took down a statue of a medieval Islamic Spanish ruler for restoration in 2013 and have yet to put it back? --evrik ^(talk) 03:24, 25 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@Juxlos: I think the issues have been resolved. --evrik ^(talk) 03:24, 25 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Agreed, seems so. Juxlos (talk) 03:30, 25 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]