Talk:World Famous Bushman
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[edit]I was on Fishermans Wharf in March of 2009. Bushman is alive and well! What a suprise to know that people would be so desprite to claim a man died even before they know the truth. Every man deserves to have a vacation I beleive. In his documenty[citation needed] he stated he left his family behind to make this all come true. So why hurt a man that only whats to make you laugh? Family ties needed to be restored and thats what he's doing. Please state only facts for his kids are affected be stupid remarks. Thank for your concerns, dear neibors your not forgotten just need to take care of home first. David Johnson was misrepresent by someone without his permission. He is alive and well. The bushman lives on to hold the one and only original "WORLD FAMOUS BUSHMAN OF FISHERMAN WHARFS" name. Look for the original bushman to be back this summer.
Proposed for deletion again (late 2009)
[edit]I added notability and deletion proposal tags to the article, I thought I was logged in at the time but I was not, so only my IP shows. Now after coming here to the discussion page, I see this article has been nominated for deletion before. If multiple people recognize this guy is not notable to anyone but some people walking down a side-walk, I think that lends more credence to my notion that this article should be deleted. Biturica (talk) 02:53, 25 December 2009 (UTC)
The tag on the main page says: "Please help to establish notability by adding reliable, secondary sources about the topic." How many secondary souces do we need? There are 8. This guy is a big tourist attraction, and a real SF icon. Plus why is this page in Category:Noindexed pages? Is that something automatic with the proposed-for-deletion thing? Nessie (talk) 06:24, 28 December 2009 (UTC)
Alive?
[edit]Did David Johnson die in 2008 or not? I can't find any obit or anything. Nessie (talk) 19:14, 27 February 2009 (UTC)
David is alive and well I took a picture with him today (Aug 18th 2011) right infront of pier 23. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.14.79.14 (talk) 03:25, 19 August 2011 (UTC)
Arrest
[edit]To the best of my knowledge David was not arrested under any "new" laws. but was charged with simple assault. Since he never did any thing to assault any body, just played a joke on them in full public view, he beat the charges. Cruel yeah alittle bit butnot assault. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 130.65.109.104 (talk • contribs) 2006-04-27 01:23:39 (UTC)
- I don't think you have all the facts straight. He's come afoul of the law more than one time, albeit in minor ways. Someone was injured when startled by him, and it was not prosecuted. However, more than one person has complained about him to the police. It would take quite a bit of energy to find the references (it was quite some time ago). Who cares enough to do that? Not me - but sometime, someone should add more about his legal status. --LeValley 07:01, 30 January 2010 (UTC)
Notable?
[edit]It is quite a stretch to label what he does as "performance." He hides behind some bushes and attempts to scare people. My first encounter with him was late at night walking along the waterfront with my date. He startled me so badly I practically struck him, thinking I was being mugged. He then had the temerity to ask me for money, claiming that since he managed to startle me, I owed him some money for his "Service." It is difficult to imaging how he could be called a "busker." I have seen the real buskers in London's Underground, and these people have actual talent with which they entertain passers-by. The "Bushman" simply relies on a cheap gimmick. I do not think this person should be included in the category of famous performers or buskers. Zephyr40k 23:19, 13 July 2006 (UTC)Zephyr40k
How true.
I saw him in October 2006. He had a crowd of maybe 20-30. His "act" is a bit low rent, but it kept everyone laughing.
--Jmohler1970 23:36, 24 January 2007 (UTC)
The only reason you are nagging on him, Zephyr, is because you got scared. Get over it. I think he's homeless.68.4.210.203 00:45, 9 June 2007 (UTC)
He is an icon I see no reason why anything should happen to the page. Sheepeh 23:43, 18 August 2007 (UTC)
Agreed. He is definitely iconic; out-of-towners ask where to find him and he's a hallmark of one of SF's most touristy areas. He's done it for 27 years and has received a fair amount of press. The entry should remain. And I agree that Zephyr is only nagging on him because he got fooled. :) Migp (talk) 18:10, 13 June 2008 (UTC)
David Johnson passed away in Oct. 2008[citation needed]. Now there is a poser that is claiming to be the Original Bushman. He uses the same spot across from Joe's Crab Pot. Darryl Coe —Preceding unsigned comment added by Darryl Coe (talk • contribs) 02:08, 8 November 2008 (UTC)
He is still here. He is very notable. His name is "world famous" for God's sake. I vote it stays. 76.229.93.199 (talk) 00:45, 24 December 2008 (UTC)
Two Bushmen
[edit]An article in SFSU's [x]press magazine says that "Many people are unaware that there are, in fact, two Bushmen. When [Gregory Jacobs] first came up with this gig, he recruited David Johnson, a man he met at Fisherman's Wharf. As they worked together they developed a close friendship. Johnson's deep voice scares those who unknowingly pass by the man-made bush. Back then, Johnson would hold the bush and Jacobs would tell the jokes, entertain those watching the action, and collect the tips. It has been about fifteen years, and now they are complete enemies. Jacobs accuses Johnson of running off with their money. Jacobs tries to avoid any conflicts with Johnson by not working where and when he is."[1]
Jacobs is also the subject of a short film, The Bush Man.[2] An article from 1999 makes it clear that Jacobs is actually the relative newcomer to the act: ""I look after him," says Gregory Jacobs, who recently joined the act as a full partner. "I watch his back.""[3] Fences&Windows 00:26, 29 December 2009 (UTC)
- F&W, that's some great digging. You should put it on the main page! I watched the teaser[4] for the short film, and I've definitely never seen that guy there, I guess I only see David Johnson. Nessie (talk) 05:47, 31 December 2009 (UTC)
Tourists
[edit]My instinct would be to change tourists to passerby in the first paragraph, and add that most of the passerby are tourists due to the location. Feedback? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Minorfixaccount (talk • contribs) 08:08, 16 April 2013 (UTC)
Lead needs rewrite
[edit]The lead starts out by saying this article is about one person. Then near the end it first mentions a second person. The whole thing is just confusing. MB 03:03, 20 May 2018 (UTC)
Active until?
[edit]Quick Facts say until 2014, the last paragraph says 2019. Which is correct? Wolfgang K (talk) 10:08, 18 September 2021 (UTC)
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